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From: vma@wpi.wpi.edu (Vahid Motevalli)
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Subject: Re: CALL FOR HELP - IRAN EARTHQUAKE
Message-ID: <13714@wpi.wpi.edu>
Date: 27 Jun 90 16:29:27 GMT
References: <1990Jun24.202907.2166@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> <535@ra.MsState.Edu> <1990Jun25.175521.26947@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
Reply-To: vma@wpi.wpi.edu (Vahid Motevalli)
Followup-To: Christopher M Mauritz
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In article <1990Jun25.175521.26947@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) writes:
>In article <535@ra.MsState.Edu> ehm1@CC.MsState.Edu (Eddie Mikell) writes:
>>This has to be a joke, isn't it?
>>
********** >>How about trading some aid for some of our hostages back?
>
>This is ridiculous.  This comes from the same country that always
>publicly calls us THE GREAT SATAN.  They made their bed, now they
>have to lie in it.  Give 'em aid when we get our people back and not
>any sooner.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Chris
>
>------------------------------+---------------------------
>Chris Mauritz                 |Donde hay una cerveza
>cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu   |hay un plan.
>(c)All rights reserved.       |
>Send flames to /dev/null      |El Guerrero Aereo es el rey!
>------------------------------+---------------------------

Well, here we have it.  Americans placing a price on human life.  Let me
ask how much "aid" will you give for each of "your hostages" in Lebonon.

Thoughts from those like you are probably unworthy of response.  However, in
light of the general negative feelings of American public, their lack of 
concern and response and much less media coverage than similar catastrophies, 
I will make the following comments.

1.  The essential problem in the attitude of such "ignorant jerks" (as was 
used in a previous article) is that they simply extent the political 
responsibilities onto the Iranian people.  This is legitimate only if those
people have had full knowledge and choice over the actions of their government.

2.  The general lack of knwledge of the history of Iran-U.S. relations over
the past 50 yrs.

3.  A biased attitude and double standard toward the value of life and
worthiness of beings not from western countries.

4.  Failure to react on human terms or basis of Judeo-Christian ethics
when confronted with a human tragedy.


So, if you and unfortunately a vast number of American public wish to 
bring politics into this human tragedy and distribute responsibilities
for political events among the earthquake victims, let us have reciprocity.

If those 50000 Iranians killed were responsible for the hostages in the 
American embassy and those in Lebenon, then you as American tax-payers, 
voters in a "democratic" society are responsible for the following:

1.  The CIA sponsored coup that toppled the nationalistic government of
Dr. Mossadegh in 1953.  This coup was directly managed by Mr. Kermit Roosevelt,
nephew to president Roosevelt.   As a result of this coup, the Shah was
brought back to power.  The CIA subsequently halped the formation of SAVAK
the nutorious secret police of Iran which was equal to the KGB .

2.  The Shah and his tyrranic (i.e. undemocratic) rule was supported by the
U.S. for over 25 years.

3.  Ironically, it was the U.S. manuvering that made it possible for 
Khomeini to assume power since the U.S., in it's usual shortsited foreign 
policy, did not want any leftists to take power in Iran.

So, should we Iranians hold you and those like you individually responsible
for acts like this that have altered our lives fantastically, has resulted 
in much suffering and loss of life?

The American governments mentallity toward value of life is quite evident when
the Lebenon situation is reviewed.  When the 251 marines were killed in 
Lebenon, the battleship New Jersy went on an indiscriminate shelling of the
Bekka valley in revenge.  Each of its shells from the 16" guns can level an 
area the size of a football field.  Was there a concern for loss of innocent
lives there.  No, because the 251 american lives were measured to be much 
higher than hundreds of civilians (as opposed to military).  The response and 
reaction of americans in the shooting down of the Iranian jetliner over the 
Persian gulf, as opposed to shooting down of the Korean airliner 007 by the
Soviet Union, is another vivid example.

Finally, a famed persian poet, Sa'di, says:

Humans are like different parts of single body, in creation

    When, one part of the body is in pain due to play of nature,
         other body parts can not rest in peace.

This verse is written on U.N. headquarter building.

I translated from persian and have not done justice to the poem, but you 
can understand the general meaning, but again make likes of you will never
understand.  That is the difference between human beings and lowest form of
life (i.e. fungui).

Hoping for your elevation to higher forms of life so that you shall not be
stepped on in your next life.  Work on it.

With best wishes

Vahid