Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcsun!cernvax!chx400!urz.unibas.ch!frank
From: frank@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: '030 upgrade for Mac+(repost)
Message-ID: <1990Jun28.162902.806@urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 28 Jun 90 15:29:02 GMT
References: <12896@shlump.nac.dec.com> <137926@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
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In article <137926@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>, fiddler@concertina.Sun.COM (Steve Hix) writes:
> In article <12896@shlump.nac.dec.com>, long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes:
>> 
>> In article <11176@pucc.Princeton.EDU> RSBONDI@pucc.Princeton.EDU writes:
>> 
>> >Warning!! Warning!! This is what I thought until I called Dove
>> >about their $500.- '030 board (MacConnection price).  Turns out
>> >you do not get an appreciable speed increase at all: all the board
>> >is good for is PMM - and if that were all I wanted, I personally
>> >would buy some cheap RAM and the Virtual INIT instead.  As far
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> 
>> Umm...  you'll have to run that by me again.  If you have a Plus or SE (as I
>> assume you do; otherwise, why the interest in the Dove board?), buying Virtual
>> won't get you a thing--you've got to have the MMU.
> 
> According to my copy of Motorola's "MC68030 Enhanced 32-Bit Microprocessor
> User's Manual", section 9, the '030 has the MMU built in.  The FPU, too.
                                                            !^^^^^^^^^^^^!
> 
> Admittedly, the '020 needs an MMU to work with Virtual.
> 

Nope! Not the '030!!!  The '040 is the first chip with an on-chip FPU (or at 
least parts of it).