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From: landman@hanami.Eng.Sun.COM (Howard A. Landman x61391)
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Subject: Re: Software piracy
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Date: 2 Jul 90 23:13:09 GMT
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I wrote:
>>Obviously, Dane has never been to Taiwan ... a friend of mine

In article <37266@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> thom@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Thom Gillespie) writes:
>Oh great another one of these 'a friend of a friend' story. Nothing like fact
>in a serious discussion -- maybe a little racism too Howard?? Hmm?

Gee, dewey.soe.berkeley.edu used to be such a friendly machine, too.  *Sigh*

Thom, your posting had no almost content other than slander, innuendo, and the
expression of your own naivete.  It's one thing to ask for substantiation of a
story.  It's quite another to call someone maybe a racist because they tell you
something negative about a foreign country that you have trouble believing.  It
is you who are making unsubstantiated allegations, not I.

The friend's name is Alan Scarff, and his program was BPS-IGO.  The story was
corroborated by another friend who accompanied him on said search.  In fact,
I think a version of the story may have been published in Computer Go.  I have
been to Taiwan and seen some evidence of the conditions to which I allude.  I
posted the story because it was humorous and illustrated the utter disdain for
software copyright that is widespread in some sectors of the Taiwanese economy
(and other parts of the world), and because I thought it was important to
understand that in the context of the ongoing piracy discussion.

Now, what's YOUR basis for discussing software piracy in Taiwan?

I'm probably not qualified to judge my own racism (but then neither are you!).
You should ask my many Chinese colleagues and Go friends about that, or maybe
my Tai Chi teacher. :-)

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	Howard A. Landman
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