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From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: MPW 3.1 doesn't work ????  ATW incompetents.
Keywords: MPW INSTALLER
Message-ID: <1990Jun29.161121.5504@eng.umd.edu>
Date: 29 Jun 90 16:11:21 GMT
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In article <1990Jun29.045846.3673@altitude.CAM.ORG> pascal@altitude.CAM.ORG (Pascal Gosselin) writes:

>I'm upset... I told my boss I needed the "MPW C and Pascal bundle" to being
>work on a project (THINK didn't work, no shared libraries).  So anyway, he
>calls ATW, pays 10$ to become a "member" (what a joke...) and orders the
>said "bundle".
$10?  Wow, I recall paying $20... That's a separate issue, though.

>Another 2 days wasted, I get the stuff....  There's no MPW SHELL to be
>found, NO INSTALLER !!!!  I'm really PO'd right now (deadlines to meet)
>and decide to give them hell.  They tell me that we never ordered
>MPW itself, we *only* ordered the C and Pascal ...  Are they nuts????

If you ordered the 'bundle' -- they lie. The bundle includes C and Pascal
AND the shell.  Check your order form-- the 'bundle' is B0032LL/E, whereas
the two languages are B0237LL/C and B0235LL/C.  The bundle should also
include SADE.  (source: APDALOG)

>invoice.  I ask about why _WE_ in Canada get photocopied docs instead
>of the real thing....  They say that's all that Apple Canada is "allowed"
>to do or something, I call it theft !
How do you know the docs are photocopied?  The stuff I got for MPW
2.02 LOOKS photocopied, but it could have been laserprinted too. 

>Can anyone direct me to some sample source code for the standard OPEN
>dialog box , Scroll bars in Pascal, Printing (flexible, generic?) and
>the full-box (I have Inside Mac I-II-III, no mention of the full box
>anywhere) ???  An FTP site or E-Mailing of this code would be greatly
>appreciated.

The zoom-box is in IM IV.  Lots of sample code is available at apple.com.
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