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From: cory@three.MV.COM (Cory Kempf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: SADE docs VERY disappointing!
Keywords: sade, debugging
Message-ID: <386@three.MV.COM>
Date: 30 Jun 90 20:33:21 GMT
References: <271@unf7.UUCP>
Organization: Three Letter Co. Nashua, NH.
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shite@unf7.UUCP (Stephen Hite) writes:

>  Subject says it all.  I outlay this kinda cash (I have MPW C 3.1 bundle
>and beta MPW C++) and I get the bare minimum in documentation for SADE with
>no recourse such as buying a user's guide from APDA or a bookstore.

>  I can't honestly say that SADE is a powerful debugging environment 
>(although I suspect from what *is* there suggests that it can be)
>because it's development team did not take the time and effort to 
>express it in words on paper in a well-organized and detailed manner. 

I have to agree.  I was all excited when I first heard about SADE.  I was
expecting something with at least as much power/usability as the Think C
debugger.  Currently, SADE is last on my list of tools to use when I am
trying to debug code.  About the only thing that I can get it to do is 
allow me to single step through my C++ code.  And what few variables it
does allow me to look at seem to insist on coming up in pascal format (yes,
it is a nit, but it IS an annoyance).

I wonder if the folks at Think have though of enhancing their debugger 
to handle the SADE symbol output?  and C++?  If they do, (and are willing
to make it a stand alone product) I'ld buy it.  As it is, I am very
disappointed with SADE, to the extent of considering shifting to the 
THINK environment if they ever get C++ (and accepting the loss of 
functionality that MPW provides).  Unfortunately, since SADE is bundled
in with MPW, I will probably be forced to purchase a worthless upgrade when
I upgrade C++.  Sigh.

+C
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