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From: shoshana@pdi.UUCP (Shoshana Abrass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Filesystem fragmentation / performance
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Date: 3 Jul 90 18:22:25 GMT
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  People here are confused about the SGI's filesystem, and I'm hoping
  someone out there can clear things up. As I understand it, the old
  AT&T filesystem was subject to serious fragmentation, ie, the longer
  a file had been around (assuming it grew gradually) the more
  fragmented it became (its blocks were all over the disk) and the
  slower its access time was. Over time, then entire operating system
  could be seen to gradually slow down. The only cure for this was to
  back the whole thing up on to tape, remake the filesystem and
  restore.

  Along came the Berkeley filesystem, with cylinder groups and other
  niceties. With the Berkeley fs, files were completely rewritten
  to disk when a size increase would have fragmented them - in other
  words, the old blocks were deallocated and new, contiguous blocks
  (in the cylinder group sense) were allocated. This system sustained
  performance over time, but slowed noticeably when the disk became
  more than 90% full.

  So here are my questions:

  1) Assuming the above is correct, which scheme does SGI use?

  2) In the AT&T system, if your use pattern was to create a lot of
     files - then remove them all - then make a bunch more - would you
     still see a gradual slowdown in performance? ie, if you didn't
     have files that increased in size over time?

  3) Can aging slow the Berkeley fs and, if so, how can it be fixed?

  As you might guess, some of our PI's are apparently slower than
  other PI's with identical hardware, and we're seeking a reason. Can
  anyone think of age problems other than fragmentation?

  Thanks for any help - I'll summarize significant replies that don't
  get posted.

  -shoshana
  Shoshana Abrass
  pdi!shoshana@sgi.com

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