Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!mcnc!ncsuvx!lll-winken!ames!ucsd!sdd.hp.com!apollo!nelson_p From: nelson_p@apollo.HP.COM (Peter Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms Subject: Re: Windows programming in C Message-ID: <4b476718.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> Date: 28 Jun 90 22:44:00 GMT Sender: root@apollo.HP.COM Distribution: usa Organization: Hewlett-Packard Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA Lines: 34 :Actually, I don't think they make this much off every copy of the SDK sold :since most all of their sales are through dealers that charge somewhere along :the lines of $300, which probably means that Microsoft is making somewhat :less. [ etc ] I think that our concern with the cost of the SDK is misplaced. I think a bigger impediment to developing Windows apps is the extreme complexity of the software required for writing Windows and the lack of more tools to make it easier and quicker. The only alternative to the SDK I know of is Actor, which is also pricey, and which requires you to learn Yet Another Language. I spend all day at work writing in Pascal and then I go home and write programs in C and I'm constantly typing "{" or "=" or "==", etc, when I mean to do something else. (Thank God we're switching over to more C at my job!) Ever since Xlib came out there have been all kinds of layers of tools and widgets built on top of it to make writing X apps easier, although I can't personally vouch for how effective they are. Why can't someone do this in Windows? Why can't I buy a C library and set of files to make writing Windows apps simple so it doesn't take 100 lines, or whatever to do "hello world"? The first guy who comes up with a good product along these lines will have a real money-maker. ---Peter