Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!70!0!Al.Hoffman From: Al.Hoffman@f0.n70.z8.fidonet.org (Al Hoffman) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Mags In ASCII Message-ID: <12496@bunker.UUCP> Date: 27 Jun 90 20:25:06 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Al.Hoffman@f0.n70.z8.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 8:70/0 Lines: 42 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 8911 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Gary: Your analogy refering to the "humans in the missiles," was well taken, however, you've not responded to the actual premise--that if blind people want to only use voice output, is this really "reading," I believe that writing really can be separated from the brailler text. I "almost never," use a brailler to write text based materials, but I definitely like a brailler for writing code sketches, or figuring out calculus, or even just a simple outline for a speech. I suppose I could use a braille-&-speak, which I have, to do outlines for speeches, but how would that work? I use my braille and speak to store temporary notes from meetings, phone lists work great, but I hate trying to program on the thing--because of its 1-dimensional aspect, you have forward, and backward, not up/down/left/right. One interesting thing on the Navigator, a braille displa from TSI, is the program to make it work in a VersaBraille environment. I am not sure if I understand this well, but essentially what I understand is that it also make it somewhat one dimensional--a string rather than an image. I feel this is limiting especially with the advent of the graphics interfaces, etc. I recently use the Amiga 2000, and Chip's demo AmigaTalk program. Its pretty good, but for the one-dimensional thinker it'd be scary indeed, you have tasks in windows, and it could get confusing. Okay, enough of my babbling in the morning for now. Take care, and any thoughts on this issue are welcome. I am working on a braille translator, but I wonder if anybody will want one. # Origin: DARKNESS III (1:109/143.0) -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!8!70!0!Al.Hoffman Internet: Al.Hoffman@f0.n70.z8.fidonet.org