Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: raymond%carme@uunet.UU.NET (Raymond Man) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Aluminum Ships Message-ID: <1990Jun29.025702.7274@cbnews.att.com> Date: 29 Jun 90 02:57:02 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: AME Dept., Univ. of Arizona at Tucson Lines: 35 Approved: military@att.att.com From: raymond%carme@uunet.UU.NET (Raymond Man) In <1990Jun28.025954.19601@cbnews.att.com> George William Herbert maintained that >Aluminum in ship structures does not burn in shipboard fires. We need to talk to chemists here. I believe (from what remain of my high school chemistry) that Al reaction with O is exothemric. So given a high enough initial temp., the reaction will sustain itself, in other words, burn. For steel, I believe it is endothermic, so it will not burn. There is no reason to suppose shipboard fires burn cooler than any fire and I imagine the materials on a warship give much hotter flame than usual. [mod.note: Will a metallurgist do ? 8-) Yes, the oxidation of aluminum is exothermic, very much so. The thing is, Al2O3 (blasted ASCII...) forms a very stable, thin film over the aluminum, which greatly inhibits further oxidation, even when the aluminum is molten. Hence, aluminum can be (and routinely is) melted and cast in open air. So long as it doesn't become finely divided, it's quite resistant to uncontrolled oxidation (fire, y'all 8-) This is not true for the more reactive titanium and zirconium families. Thermite (a mixture of powdered aluminum and iron oxide, which generates great heat in the exchange reaction forming iron and aluminum oxide) works because of the fine division of the components. The process is known as "aluminothermic reduction," for vocabulary buffs. - Bill ] The rest of Mr. Herbert article I tend to agree. Disclaimer: Nothing more than explicitly stated is intended to be conveyed. Just call me `Man'. "And why take ye thought for " -- Matt. 6:28 raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu