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From: teedclo@isis.educ.lon.ac.uk (CARI LODER)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: Re: Comparing Men's and Women's Wages
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Date: 2 Jul 90 20:33:54 GMT
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>We have all observed how many women are trained by society to be easily 
>squelched by men.  (It is easy to translate gender into ethnicity.)

Well said! I have found it a particular problem. I do not find it
difficult to assert myself and therefore have no trouble in asking
for, and getting, what I deserve (whether it be a raise, better
conditions etc).  However, although this is OK when dealing with
men, I have immense trouble with women.  The difficulty takes two
forms:  1)  Women who have difficulty asserting themselves find
            me intimidating ;
        2)  Older women consider that "younger" women should not
           be assertive and subsequently try to "put me in my place".


I have yet to find a way round this problem.  Anyone got any ideas?
-- 
Cari Loder:   Janet: teedclo@uk.ac.lon.educ.isis
Centre for Higher Education Studies , Institute of Education
University of London