Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!dlogics!dsa From: dsa@dlogics.COM (David Angulo) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Artificial vs. ''real'' intelligence Summary: Once again, YOU CANNOT make QM deterministic Message-ID: <598@dlogics.COM> Date: 6 Jul 90 21:17:48 GMT References: <1990Jul2.182411.4441@king.mcs.drexel.edu> <5734@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> Organization: Datalogics Inc., Chicago Lines: 34 In article <5734@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU>, ins_atge@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Thomas G Edwards) writes: > > Whether QM functions can be computed by a Turing Machine has not > to my knowledge been explicitly proven, and probably will never > be. QM "functions" cannot be "computed" by any means. All you can "compute" are amplitudes and probability densities. > > One thing for sure is that QM functions, being physical functions, > can be determined by physical devices. No they cannot. Please stop saying this. It is incorrect as has been pointed out here many times. > This may include > an external Gieger Counter hooked up to the machine if you > insist on having QM functions neccessary for intelligence Well, I don't insist that QM is necessary for intelligence (outside of how it is important for the world); however, to say something like this you need to understand QM better. "Hooking up a Geiger Counter" will probably change the result of your experiment. > -- David S. Angulo (312) 266-3134 Datalogics Internet: dsa@dlogics.com 441 W. Huron UUCP: ..!uunet!dlogics!dsa Chicago, Il. 60610 FAX: (312) 266-4473