Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!bfmny0!tneff From: tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM (Tom Neff) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: user's aliases on the To: line (was: UUnet and munging headers.) Message-ID: <15637@bfmny0.BFM.COM> Date: 6 Jul 90 00:31:32 GMT References: <7329@gollum.twg.com> <10128@ogicse.ogc.edu> <7489@gollum.twg.com> Reply-To: tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM (Tom Neff) Lines: 45 In article <7489@gollum.twg.com> david@twg.com (David S. Herron) writes: ... >RFC-822 describes groups as so: ... > From: George Jones > Sender: Jones@Host > Reply-To: The Committee: Jones@Host.Net, > Smith@Other.Org, > Doe@Somewhere-Else; > >Elsewhere it says that the list need not be present. > >In other words.. this group:; format is meant for the exact situation >which the "alias" in mush and/or ucbmail covers. But this appears useless for real net-wide mailing lists. First of all the To: line is not specified in the above example, which was the original point of this thread. Secondly, if you omit the list of addresses in the Reply-To: header above, as the standard appears to allow, then you don't have anything a recipient user can actually reply to! Group names are not FQDN's, and others' machines cannot be expected to have the right alias for "The Committee:". I have hundreds of users on my lists, including UUCP, Internet, BITNET, MILNET, EARNET, MCI Mail, CompuServe and elsewhere. This is what I do: From: Joe Contributor Sender: LEPROSY-REQUEST@bfmny0.BFM.COM Errors-To: LEPROSY-REQUEST@bfmny0.BFM.COM Reply-To: LEPROSY@bfmny0.BFM.COM To: LEPROSY (Hansens Disease Interest Group) That (plus date and message-id) is the header. Then in the envelope (implemented as an 'rmail' command) I list all the individual addressees: rmail fred@schmoo.bitnet blah!blit!bloop alma@frat.quayle.edu ... My usual mail feed has a 2K limit on uux commands, so I split up the envelope list as needed and make multiple submissions. Now I don't know if this satisfies all the theoretical gurus, but it WORKS. -- A doubled signature is the devil's work. ** Tom Neff -- A doubled signature is the devil's work. ** Tom Neff