Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!umn-d-ub!rhealey From: rhealey@umn-d-ub.D.UMN.EDU (Rob Healey) Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: Imminent death of UUCP Zone predicted Message-ID: <3662@umn-d-ub.D.UMN.EDU> Date: 9 Jul 90 03:24:56 GMT References: <1990Jun28.164938.23367@DSI.COM> <3008.268b1e9a@mccall.com> <1990Jul5.005618.17046@techbook.com> <3070.2694591f@mccall.com> Reply-To: rhealey@ub.d.umn.edu (Rob Healey) Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth Lines: 51 In article <3070.2694591f@mccall.com> tp@mccall.com writes: >In article <1990Jul5.005618.17046@techbook.com>, jamesd@techbook.com (James Deibele) writes: >5) You may not even have any local internet folk. And even if you do, it is >not at all unlikely that they will be unfriendly. It happened to me. I had ^^^^^^^^^^ Hmmm >a modem in New York City, and had actually set up forwarding with rutgers >in New Jersey before one guy in the city changed his mind (he didn't even >answer my mail for 3 weeks, later said he read it but was too busy to >answer, and if I hadn't found anyone else, he'd do it, but it would be a >while before he could get around to it. REAL friendly). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hmmmm #2. The last sentance shows a VERY disturbing attitude on the part of small UUCP sites. i.e. UUCP connections are a RIGHT not a PRIVLEDGE. Most small sites take on the attitude that bigger site admins should drop all their responsibilitys to their organization and cater to the whim of the smaller site; GET REAL. How many of these small sites realize the amount of TIME and MONEY it takes to support a small .UUCP site from the other side? How many realize how bad they screw things up with poorly constructed mail addresses with .UUCP or multiple combinations of !%@ that take ALOT of time constructing rulesets for? Then they have the balls to bitch at their feed site when the bad addresses they send through get bounced. Why any internet site would take on the pain in the ass of supporting a .UUCP site is beyond me, the grief involved isn't worth it. I know from experience. The small sites complain about how expensive domain registration is, that cost is no where near the TIME cost of supporting a .uucp site on the feed side. I'd feed a domain site that generated valid internet addresses in a second, I'd tell someone who insisted on a .uucp domain to keep on walking. I'm not being unfriendly, I'm saving myself and my organization time and money. If the small sites can't be burdened to construct valid and easily parsed addresses then their feeds shouldn't be burdened with having to decipher the garbage To: and Reply-To: lines. The US post office, and most others in the world, REQUIRE a certain format of a letter's address. I see no reason why requiring e-mail addresses to be standard is any more unreasonable than requiring paper mail addresses to be standard. -Rob All views expressed here are MY OWN and in no way, shape or form represent the views of the U of M or any of its subunits. If you want to scream at somebody about the contents, scream at me.