Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!agate!darkstar!ucscb.UCSC.EDU!galpin From: galpin@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Knight of the Mystic Sword) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Pirates and swapware Summary: The point about serial number protection Message-ID: <4900@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Date: 5 Jul 90 03:45:37 GMT References: <1990Jun25.104017.803@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <31356@cup.portal.com> <1990Jul4.064216.21027@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Sender: usenet@darkstar.ucsc.edu Distribution: na Organization: UCSC Open Access Lines: 54 I think that this discussion about serial number protection on the Amiga is quite ridiculous. Even if one does not agree that this method of copy-protection would be an inconvienience, that determined pirates would find clever ways of bypassing even the most stringent of protection schemes, and that the addition of some standard form of serial number protection would cost extra $$$ that people would not be willing to spend.... THERE ARE OVER 1 MILLION AMIGA's OUT THERE WITHOUT SUCH A SCHEME! Can you really expect application programmers to begin developing Amiga software that uses this kind of protection when there would be very few users that actually have such a scheme installed? I find it hard to believe that people consider this a serious discussion. If C= had done it in 1985, then it might mean something.. but .. despite the ineffectiveness of such a policy due to persistent pirates (yes.. I call them pirates because I define a thief to be someone who steals something that directly deprives another individual of a product, while a pirate derives the creator/developer of their rightful revenue) :-) I see no way of actually implementing such a scheme, so such a discussion seems trivial. The reason that more developers don't develop for the Amiga is.. 1) There isn't a very large user base (especially in the US) 2) The Amiga market demands lower pricing then the IBM/MAC market 3) Most users of the Amiga do not buy it for advanced business applications The Wordperfect people (in a candid discussion) told me that sales simply weren't good enough to keep programmers involved in the development of Amiga WP 5.0.. which would allow the use of fonts like Macintosh WP. This is not just because of piracy.. but because many users don't need a high end word processor, so they choose one of the flashier Amiga word processors that support graphics and are less costly. I would LOVE to see Microsoft (despite AmigaBASIC), Lotus, Ashton-Tate, or Borland develop for the Amiga.. but I don't see it happening. A Borland representative explained to me that Borland was only planning to develop for MS-DOS in the near future (not even Macintosh), because the base of MS-DOS machines is SO large. So.. C= sell a couple million more Amigas.. and maybe we will finally see some of these companies change their mind. :-) Much of this is opinion loosely based on fact.. direct flames to alt.flame. -Dan -- ****************************************************************************** * Amiga // * Short (TM) Signature * DISCLAIMER: * * \\ // * galpin@UCSCB.UCSC.EDU * This space reserved for a * * \X/ Only* COMP. QUOTE: Only time will tell* clever disclaimer someday. * ******************************************************************************