Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!chaph.usc.edu!nunki.usc.edu!bli From: bli@nunki.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: "Demos" and piracy Message-ID: <10778@chaph.usc.edu> Date: 12 Jul 90 18:00:15 GMT References: <3471@crash.cts.com> <6160@helios.ee.lbl.gov> Sender: news@chaph.usc.edu Organization: Basalt Software, Inc (f. Ag) Lines: 37 In article <6160@helios.ee.lbl.gov> jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel MOYNE) writes: > > > By the way, there is a new way going in Europe now. They are groups >specialized into making demos, only demos !!! Not doing any cracks. > > The idea remains the same: showing off !!! And in the text all you >can read is: "we are the Best !! look at our demo !! We dare XXX to do >better, and we wind the Demo-Contest with it!!" >That's all, no call for piracy, no reference to piracy. And if you see an >address in the text, usualy you can read: "send your demos to: XXXX XXXX >XXX, DEMOS and PD stuff only !!!!". ^^^^ Stop yelling at us! Another way to look at it is by comparing demos with TV commercials. You cannot say that a TV station is actually endorsing all the products that are advertised on its channel, but rather that that TV station is (hopefully) not engaging in censorship against a product. There is nothing illegal or immoral about demos. they are not pirated, and nobody is loosing money because of their free distribution. The best way for a bulletin board to show that it is against piracy is not to allow pirated software in its database.. For example, a local bulletin board (Mike's Video House, (818) 240-1593) has some demos in its databases, but the sysop has made it clear time and time again that no pirated stuff is allowed. When he used to run another software that allowed larger descriptions, he used to add a disclaimer like: "Although I personally do not agree or endorse the views expressed in this demo, it is an interesting programming example"... What would made *ME* more interested in collecting demos, is if those european programmers would provide the source to those demos. It is really impossible to get anything out of the guys on c.s.amiga.tech that is not in the RKMs... :-) (er. cheap commercial here: you are welcome to call the above mentioned board, it is open to all mature, non-warez-hunters. You'll like it.)