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From: jimr@maths.su.oz.au (Jim Richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Mathematica/iWrite/WingZ for educational sites
Summary: How to obtain media/doc and bundled educational licences for Mathematica; Island beta
Keywords: Mathematica Wolfram iWrite iPaint iDraw Island WingZ
Message-ID: <1990Jul12.023610.1184@metro.ucc.su.OZ.AU>
Date: 12 Jul 90 02:36:10 GMT
References: <1990Jul5.074126.10394@metro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> <9007061259.AA14551@richter.mit.edu>
Reply-To: jimr@maths.su.oz.au (Jim Richardson)
Organization: Dept of Pure Mathematics, University of Sydney
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Thanks to everyone who replied to my query.  

As Dave Krowitz noted in article <9007061259.AA14551@richter.mit.edu>, Daniel
Stih of Wolfram Research can supply passwords for Mathematica on workstations
bought by educational institutions after 17 October 1989, provided HP has
notified him of the node numbers.  He can be reached on +1 217 398 0700, or
by email to support@wri.com.  Thanks to him we now have passwords for most
of our machines (the others were not in his list of nodeids from HP).

(Unfortunately despite this Mathematica 1.2 (January 5, 1990) does not work
on our DN2500s at SR10.2: it prints a banner but no prompts and seems to ignore
everything you type at it except control-C and control-D.  It does work on our
DN4500 which is still at 10.1.  Anybody else seen this?  I've asked Wolfram to
look into it.  While I'm at it has anyone received a later version of Mathe-
matica for Apollos?  There's supposed to be one coming eventually that will fix
a bug that prevents you running the package under the DM while crp'ed.)

Dave indicated that if HP has not supplied nodeids to Wolfram you should call
Art Sward (+1 303 229 6043) or Phil Farley (+1 303 229 3500) at the HP Educa-
tional Marketing office in Fort Collins.  Such a call means getting up in the
middle of the night for me -- I wonder if they have Internet email addresses.

A few people who replied were interested in WingZ, but apparently it has not
been released (yet?).

Nobody seemed to want the Island Graphics software except us.  But in case
someone out there does, I'll report that I've now received a beta version from
our HP sales rep.  It requires PSK5 to run: that seems to be product support
kit for SR10.2, also available only in beta, which enhances X et al so it can
run HPVUE 1.0 ...  *also* available only as a beta release so far.

I didn't get any installation instructions for Island, but among other things
on the tape is the following:

# ls -l i*
-rwxrwxrwx+  1 root      1799217 Jun  7 20:25 islandinstall
# file i*
islandinstall:	unstruct apollo m68k executable (COFF) not stripped 

1.8 MB for an *install tool*?  I've been too scared to run it so far.

The documentation for the Island software says it requires the Motif Window
Manager mwm, which is not bundled with Domain/OS, but comes as part of HPVUE,
and perhaps can also be obtained separately from HP.  I suppose HP will be
supplying all educational customers with a free copy so they can run the
promised free Island software.  But I suppose a lot of things about HP that
end up disappointing me ...
--
Jim Richardson
Department of Pure Mathematics, University of Sydney, NSW 2006, Australia
Internet: jimr@maths.su.oz.au  ACSNET: jimr@maths.su.oz  FAX: +61 2 692 4534