Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!usc!ucsd!pacbell.com!ames!eos!shelby!unix!garth!fouts@bozeman.ingr.com (Martin Fouts) From: fouts@bozeman.ingr.com (Martin Fouts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.super Subject: Le Roi est Mort (was Re: Terminology one more time: Are mainframes and minis "dead?") Message-ID: <543@garth.UUCP> Date: 8 Jul 90 21:17:17 GMT References: <6946@amelia.nas.nasa.gov> Sender: fouts@garth.UUCP Followup-To: comp.sys.super Organization: INTERGRAPH (APD) -- Palo Alto, CA Lines: 44 In-reply-to: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov's message of 25 Jun 90 22:57:09 GMT What do you mean by "dead" Eugene? I've heard that 16 bit systems were dead, and then discovered that DEC sold many hundreds of millions of dollars worth of PDP11s last year. I've heard that mainframes were dead, but IBM is still the biggest company in the computer business. If you mean it is time for a nomenclature change, I agree, so here goes my entry in the obfsucate the nomenclature contest. There are two dimensions, size and price. The chart is accurate now, but will be obsolete before everyone on the list sees it. Not all positions have an entry, because not all niches are filled yet. (VCs take note ;-) < 5k < 10K < 100K < 1 M > 1 M Portable Portable Portable PC Supercomputer Desk Top Loss Personal Serious Milspec PC Leader Workstation Workstation Workstation Cabinet in Milspec PC Workstation Computer room PC Supercomputer Workstation Supercomputer Multiple Departmental Cabinets Supercomputer Supercomputer As you can see, we only have three classes of computers: PC: Mine and mine only. Workstation: Mine, but you can use it once in a while. Supercomputer: Marketing needed better advertising copy Adjectives are used to distinguish prices. -- Martin Fouts UUCP: ...!pyramid!garth!fouts ARPA: apd!fouts@ingr.com PHONE: (415) 852-2310 FAX: (415) 856-9224 MAIL: 2400 Geng Road, Palo Alto, CA, 94303 If you can find an opinion in my posting, please let me know. I don't have opinions, only misconceptions.