Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!hplabs!hpcc01!hp-ptp!hp-ses!wunder From: wunder@hp-ses.SDE.HP.COM (Walter Underwood) Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop Subject: Re: Any good WYSIWIG desktop publishing software on UNIX Workstations? Message-ID: <4540005@hp-ses.SDE.HP.COM> Date: 10 Jul 90 18:38:36 GMT References: <1924@runxtsa.runx.oz.au> Organization: HP SW Engineering Systems - Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 34 Frame really wins on "unusual" layouts, like newsletters and such. It has, hands down, the best mathematical WYSIWYG typesetter in the business. Have you tried ArborText Publisher? Full TeX rules in the equation editor. All AMS symbols, etc. The Publisher is different from WYSIWIG -- it is a structured document editor. It runs on X11 or SunView, and it does change fonts and sizes on the screen, but it saves page breaks, columns and that stuff for the previewer. Tags (chapter, section, x-ref, today, ...) are visible as small boxes on the screen, so they can be selected, deleted, changed, etc. I like it a lot better than the WYSIWIG approach, because it separates the structure of the document from the style (much like Scribe, LaTeX, or SGML). I think there are advantages in that approach for everyone, but it is particylarly attractive to programmers, since they already understand manipulating nested structures. One nice advantage of this approach is the support for "conditinal compilation". If the a document needs to be published in two versions (SunView and X, for example), you can add ifdefs for the parts that need changed, then print the versions separately. As mentioned for Frame, The Publisher has keyboard equivalents for everything. It also has command language eqivalents for all actions, and those can be combined into macros, and bound to keys, mouse actions, or menus. Check it out before charging off after Frame or Interleaf. I've tried both of those, and like the Publisher better. wunder