Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!snorkelwacker!bloom-beacon!zardoz.coral.COM!don From: don@zardoz.coral.COM (Don Dewar) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Openlook vs. Motif Message-ID: <9007051118.AA10402@zardoz.coral.com> Date: 5 Jul 90 11:18:36 GMT Sender: daemon@athena.mit.edu (Mr Background) Organization: The Internet Lines: 40 If this debate continues to rage on, taking up both electronic and visual (eyestrain) bandwidth, I would suggest we make a separate mailing list. This is a purely subjective argument at this time. Yes, I have my opinion, but my opinion means nothing when one considers that this issue is going to be decided by the interaction of two factors: the market and defacto standards. In a world where software is more and more market driven (especially in the hotly competitive workstation market), Sun will eventually go where the market is. Therefore, whichever Motif or Openlook becomes the defacto standard, that is where Sun and most of the other players will probably go. Therefore, one very important consideration when trying to *guess* which product will win is how much each product attempts to pander to the "standards compliant" market by 1) building on existing standards, 2) filling in the holes by creating reasonable standards where none exists, and 3) appealing to a broad market by not maintaining a legal stranglehold the product, which has in the past scared this market segment. I think this mail distribution deserves arguments based on the technical merits of the products or on the "art" of user interfaces; not on a bunch of pie in the sky numbers or on (somethimes prejudical) subjective opinions. Few of the market *analysis* I have read here on this debate seem credible, and they certainly have not quoted their sources. I have already said more than I wanted to, so in closing, I would beg that the persons continuing this argument get verifiable *facts*, argue based on technical merit or on the human factors side of user interfaces, or start a new mailing list to throw their opinions at each other. +---------+ | Coral | |@@@@@*@**| |@@*@@**@@| Don Dewar |*@@**@@@@| Coral Network Corporation, Marlborough, MA |@***@@@@@| Internet: don@coral.com |@@**@@@@@| Phone: (508) 460-6010 |*********| Fax: (508) 481-6258 |Networks | +---------+