Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!purdue!iuvax!cogsci!dave From: dave@cogsci.indiana.edu (David Chalmers) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Searle and biology Message-ID: <51408@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> Date: 19 Jul 90 06:11:43 GMT References: <14265@enera.isi.edu> <602@ntpdvp1.UUCP> Sender: news@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu Reply-To: dave@cogsci.indiana.edu (David Chalmers) Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Lines: 39 In article <602@ntpdvp1.UUCP> kenp@ntpdvp1.UUCP (Ken Presting) writes: >Stephen, you are again mistaken. Searle's PUBLISHED position on this issue >is clear, unambiguous, and has been repeated in at least three articles. > >It is this: We know for a fact that brains think. We don't know at all >whether anything else will ever think. Nobody in his right mind would deny >the first assertion. That is the extent of the "superiority of biological >implementations." > >You are only obscuring an already difficult issue with such irresponsible >hearsay. This statement of Searle's position does not tell the whole truth. It is true that Searle does not claim to have *proved* any privileged role for biology. However, his intuitions about the matter are another story. Check out these excerpts: "Whatever intentionality is, it is a biological phenomenon, and it is as likely to be as causally dependent on the specific biochemistry of its origins as lactation, photosynthesis, or any other biological phenomenon." -- BBS, 1980, p. 424. "The upshot of this discussion is to remind us of something that we have known all along: namely, mental states are biological phenomena. Consciousness, intentionality, subjectivity and mental causation are all a part of our biological life history, along with growth, reproduction, the secretion of bile, and digestion." -- _Minds, Brains and Science_, p. 41. "Brains are specific biological organs, and their specific biological properties enable them to cause consciousness and other sorts of mental phenomena." -- Scientific American, Jan 1990, p. 29. -- Dave Chalmers (dave@cogsci.indiana.edu) Concepts and Cognition, Indiana University. "It is not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable"