Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!cernvax!chx400!ethz!fede From: fede@ethz.UUCP (F. Bonzanigo) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Phase compensation for IIR filters Message-ID: <5126@ethz.UUCP> Date: 16 Jul 90 18:48:36 GMT References: <3504@radio.oakhill.UUCP> <1990Jul10.122121.28209@funet.fi> <3187@phred.UUCP> Reply-To: fede@bernina.ethz.ch.UUCP (F. Bonzanigo) Organization: ETH Zuerich, Switzerland Lines: 31 In article <3187@phred.UUCP> james@phred.UUCP (JAMES Taylor) writes: > >Also interesting (and of no personal design experience) is an article: >Clements (and Pease), "On Causal Linear Phase IIR Digital Filters", > IEEE Trans. ASSP, Vol 37, No. 4, Apr 1989 From the Summary (on p. 483) of the above paper: "The main focus of this paper has been of a theoretical nature. (Although) the nonrationality of the system described render them unrealizable,..." Before someone tries again to invent the perpetuum mobile, it has been shown long ago that a causal and stable IIR filter with a rational (and therefore realizable) transfer function cannot have a (exactly) linear phase. A linear phase IIR filter should have its poles in reciprocal pairs and therefore cannot be stable. The original proof can be found in: A.G. Deczky, "General Expression for the Group Delay of Digital Filters", Electronics Letters, Vol.5, No. 25, Dec. 11, 1969. Federico Bonzanigo Electrical Engineering Dept. Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH) CH-8092 Zurich, Switzerland E-mail: bonzanigo@nimbus.ethz.ch EARN/BITNET: BONZANIGO@CZHETH5A.bitnet EUNET/UUCP: fede@ethz.UUCP Phone: +41 (1) 256-5134 (+ = whatever you have to dial Fax: +41 (1) 251-2172 to call outside your country) Telex: 817115 vaw ch