Xref: utzoo soc.college:5469 comp.edu:3344 misc.jobs.misc:7302 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!munnari.oz.au!uhccux!ames!ads.com!decwrl!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!hacgate!aic!yamauchi From: yamauchi@aic.dpl.scg.hac.com (Brian Yamauchi) Newsgroups: soc.college,comp.edu,misc.jobs.misc Subject: Academia vs. Industry (for CS PhDs) Message-ID: <9518@hacgate.UUCP> Date: 13 Jul 90 18:41:59 GMT Sender: news@hacgate.UUCP Reply-To: yamauchi@aic.hrl.hac.com Organization: Hughes Research Labs, Malibu, CA Lines: 47 I'd like to start a thread on what is undoubtedly one of the most often asked questions in grad school (at least in CS) -- "Are you planning to go into academia or industry?" To narrow this question down to a manageable size, by "academia" I mean a tenure-track position at a good research university and by "industry" I mean a position as a researcher at a top industrial lab. My perceptions are that the primary advantages of academia over industry are that you have complete freedom to decide what you want to research and that you are your own boss. The primary disadvantages seem to be that you spend an inordinate amount of time chasing grant money and that you have to teach (which may not be a disadvantage to everyone). Industrial positions seem to vary widely depending on the company and the lab. At the best labs, you may have almost as much freedom as those in academia (although you still have a boss). On the other hand, at some labs this freedom may go hand-in-hand with the need for chasing grants. Both universities and industrial labs tend to be well-equipped and to pay competitve salaries, so these areas don't seem to present major differences. Another issue is politics. While I've never been in a very bad political situation, I've heard horror stories from grad students and professors about the level of internal politics at some universities. Of course, I'm sure internal politics also exists to a certain degree in industrial labs -- but I'd be curious as to whether people think it tends to be worse in academia. Conversely, it seems as though industrial labs may be more affected by external politics (defense R&D cuts, corporate restructuring, etc.). I'm currently a PhD student in CS at the University of Rochester (working at Hughes over the summer), and my perceptions are based on 2 years of grad school, 4 years of undergrad (Math/CS at CMU), and 2 summers working in industry, so clearly, I've had more experience doing research in the "academia" side. I'd be interested to hear whether others (grad students/professors/researchers/etc.) have similar perceptions. ______________________________________________________________________________ Brian Yamauchi Hughes Research Laboratories yamauchi@aic.hrl.hac.com Artificial Intelligence Center ______________________________________________________________________________