Xref: utzoo soc.college:5472 comp.edu:3346 misc.jobs.misc:7310 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!ucbvax!mole.Berkeley.EDU!matloff From: matloff@mole.Berkeley.EDU (Norman Matloff) Newsgroups: soc.college,comp.edu,misc.jobs.misc Subject: Re: Academia vs. Industry (for CS PhDs) Message-ID: <37561@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 14 Jul 90 02:27:40 GMT References: <9518@hacgate.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: matloff@heather.ucdavis.edu (Norm Matloff) Organization: EECS, UC Davis Lines: 19 In article <9518@hacgate.UUCP> yamauchi@aic.hrl.hac.com writes: >Of course, I'm sure internal politics also exists to a >certain degree in industrial labs -- but I'd be curious as to whether >people think it tends to be worse in academia. Conversely, it seems Yes, industry does have some politics, but it is FAR, FAR worse in academia. I say this having been in academia for 15 years, in three departments, and having a number of close friends at various schools (and in various fields) across the country. The degree varies from one place to another, but it *is* universal. I still feel personally that academia is the place to be. But if you are the type who is sensitive to injustice, selfishness, pettiness, meanness, callousness -- shall I go on? :-) -- then you will have to make sure that you are ready to put up with this muck as the price you have to pay for the genuine pleasures that academia has to offer. Norm