Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU!rusty From: rusty@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU (rusty wright) Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail Subject: weird error messages Message-ID: <9007192157.AA05468@garnet.berkeley.edu> Date: 19 Jul 90 21:57:11 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 47 This is on a DECstation 5000/200 running Ultrix 3.1d. (220 belch.Berkeley.EDU Sendmail 5.57/1.41 ready at Thu, 19 Jul 90 14:47:49 PDT) Here's what shows up in the syslog file: Jul 16 00:44:05 localhost: 27671 sendmail: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: queuename: Cannot create "qf~Z27671" in "/usr/spool/mqueue": No such file or directory Here's an example of a bounced message: Date: Mon, 16 Jul 90 15:08:46 PDT From: MAILER-DAEMON@belch.Berkeley.EDU (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Can't create output To: owner-tinymud-slingers@belch.Berkeley.EDU ----- Transcript of session follows ----- (Resetting uid) queuename: Cannot create "qf~Z28707" in "/usr/spool/mqueue": No such file or directory 451 "|/usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -om -ftinymud-slingers-owner tinymud-slingers-list"... Operating system error 550 /belch_a/ftp/mailing-lists/tinymud-slingers/mail-errors... Can't create output ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: by belch.Berkeley.EDU (5.57/1.41) id AA28698; Mon, 16 Jul 90 15:08:46 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Jul 90 15:08:46 PDT From: rearl (ChupChup) Message-Id: <9007162208.AA28698@belch.Berkeley.EDU> To: sfwhite@watcgl.waterloo.edu Cc: callas@eris.enet.dec.com, tinymud-slingers@belch.Berkeley.EDU In-Reply-To: Stephen White's message of Mon, 16 Jul 90 17:12:18 EDT <9007162112.AA20319@watcgl.waterloo.edu> Subject: How much of this is a bug? ... This is a mailing list; here's what's in my /etc/aliases file (this hack is courtesy of Brian Kantor): tinymud-slingers: "|/usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -om -ftinymud-slingers-ownertinymud-slingers-list" tinymud-slingers-list: :include: /belch_a/ftp/mailing-lists/tinymud-slingers/mailing-list tinymud-slingers-owner: rusty,/belch_a/ftp/mailing-lists/tinymud-slingers/errors-log These wierd errors only seem to happen when you send mail to the mailing list when you're on the same machine (belch). I.e., if I'm on grunt and send to tinymud-slingers@belch I don't have any problem. My guess is that the tilde in the qf file name that it's trying to create has the high bit on; but that's just a shot in the dark.