Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!jarthur!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!xanth!talos!kjones From: kjones@talos.pm.com (Kyle Jones) Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: Imminent death of UUCP Zone predicted Message-ID: <1990Jul17.153938.24561@talos.pm.com> Date: 17 Jul 90 15:39:38 GMT References: <1990Jul10.133026.18326@terminator.cc.umich.edu> <1990Jul11.204251.6990@chinet.chi.il.us> <1990Jul16.202721.271@chinet.chi.il.us> Lines: 38 Leslie Mikesell writes: > Always saying user@domain is not a solution if you assume that > the intermediate uucp hops run out-of-the-box AT&T rmail. > Even if user@domain is valid and what the user says, the local > mail has to generate a path to the domain gateway. Tom Fitzgerald writes: > This is optimizing for broken sites at the expense of working sites. We've > had several RFCs and gigabytes of text in this newsgroup saying what UUCP > sites should be doing, and lots of us are doing the right thing (I think). Mikesell again: > Should we storm AT&T and burn the source to rmail or just quietly go > on in the belief that everyone using it is doing the wrong thing and > should be punished by shunning them? Both. Whenever I set up a new UUCP neighbor and discover that they're using rotted software, I inform them of that fact and offer something better. If they don't reform, then I reward their intransigence by marking them DEAD in my maps. As for AT&T, the bombing begins in five minutes... :-) Fitzgerald again: > Is it really worth working so hard to give life-support to broken > configurations, when it makes things worse for up-to-date configurations? Mikesell: > This attitude does a lot to explain the popularity of using fax machines > for anything important even when revisions need to be retyped. Eh? If it's important, then we set up a direct connection and cut out the middleman. I mean, if you're going to make the phone call anyway, you might as well do it right. kyle jones ...!uunet!talos!kjones "No further communication will be accepted! If there is the slightest hostile move, your host will be destroyed immediately!"