Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!mtxinu!ed From: ed@mtxinu.COM (Ed Gould) Newsgroups: comp.os.mach Subject: Re: Mac Mach ??? Message-ID: <1285@mtxinu.UUCP> Date: 12 Jul 90 18:12:55 GMT References: <130300002@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: ed@garcia.mtxinu.COM (Ed Gould) Organization: mt Xinu, Berkeley Lines: 24 >I have heard that Mach has been ported to the Macintosh, in its >totally free (no ATT code) form. It was running under the Finder, >and multiple finders were running, without knowledge of each >other. Ah, the rumor mills are at it again. Mach is running on the Mac, but - so far as I know, anyway - just Mach 2.5, which has the Unix services in the kernel. Hence, even the kernel is not free of AT&T code. (Even if Mach 3.0 - the pure kernel - is running on the Mac, the Unix server and utilities are still derived from AT&T code, so a usable Unix-interface system unencumbered by an AT&T licence is *not* available.) Also, Mach runs native on the Mac, not under the finder. Currently, distributioon of MacMach is being held up by Apple, but my understanding is that things are moving along and that it will be released fairly soon - maybe even this year. -- Ed Gould mt Xinu, 2560 Ninth St., Berkeley, CA 94710 USA ed@mtxinu.COM +1 415 644 0146 "I'll fight them as a woman, not a lady. I'll fight them as an engineer."