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From: BLS7@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: Update to 1.5.10 Upgrade Kit
Message-ID: <90196.231041BLS7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: 16 Jul 90 03:10:41 GMT
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Organization: Penn State University
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*sigh*

I think *someone* who has a running ST 1.5.10 pacakage should make a new
upgrade kit for the ST.  Here are some problems:  (and I'm only going to
1.5.0)

   1)  The first thing that you're supposed to unpack and make is the new
       make for Minix.  Well, this is fine and dandy *but* you have to have
       the utime.h file and some other .c files which are *not* with the ST
       package as far as I can tell.  Putting it truthfully in the READ_ME
       file that comes with make it says that the files that are needed were
       posted *but* this is over 7 months since the probable posting date of
       the articles.  The upgrade itself is supposed to take more than enough
       time why should we have to scrounge around for all of the needed files?

   2)  How are the PC 1.5 files archived?  I have them sitting as (supposedly)
       ASCII text on floppy right now.  Here is *exactly* what I did to get
       them:  (for those ppl who e-mailed me flames like "do you know what ftp
       is?" because of my last post.)

       a)  I ftp'd the files from plains.nodak.edu to pogo.ai.mit.edu
           (borrowing a unix account there)
       b)  I uncompressed *everything*.
       c)  I ftp'd the files down to a pc floppy.
       d)  I brought the floppys home.
       e)  I did a `tos -r /dev/dd0 filename >filename'

       (For those who don't know -- Atari and IBM have the same format of disks
       thus there are no problems with downloading to a PC then taking the
       disks to an Atari.)

       After all of this I have a whole bunch of unwanted :M's after everything
       but that is minor to fix.

       I have no problem with the ST files now as I wrote a little C program
       which takes off all of the :M's in it fine but, the PC files dont seem
       to want to work.  I have tried `sh <filename' and `ar x filename' to
       get these files.  (Both before and after trying my little program on
       them -- Since I couldnt find anything that said how the PC files are
       archived.)

   3)  Among all of the rest there are references in the directions for the
       upgrade to 1.5.0 to files in the PC upgrade that *do not exist*.
       (i.e.  Step #7 in the directions mentions PC part #73 -- some kind
       soul told me already that this is patch.00.Z.)

In conclusion I will say this:

   The ST upgrades might have been quite fine if you were around while they
were being develpoed and posted but, they are in very poor shape now.  I think
it's time for someone to come out with the "definitive" ST 1.1 to ST 1.5.10
upgrade kit with *either* nothing to do with the PC Upgrade Kit *or* with all
of the parts of the PC Kit *clearly* listed out that are needed.  I personally
would devote days to making this reality but, alas I have to get 1.5.10 running
before I could make that happen.

Could someone with a running ST 1.5.10 version would please e-mail me?  As I
would really like to have it running -- 1.1 has lots-o-bugs that seem to be
popping up right in the things that i really need.


                                Babs Silvis