Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!udel!mmdf From: waltje@minixug.hobby.nl (Fred van Kempen) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Re: UUCP for Minix Message-ID: <24878@nigel.udel.EDU> Date: 17 Jul 90 23:30:14 GMT Sender: mmdf@ee.udel.EDU Lines: 235 From article <24365@nigel.udel.EDU>, by phi@insearch.cam.org (Phi): > It is very helpful if the summary also gives size of each message It does: W-MAIL 3.59/MINIX (07/09/90). Type ? for Help. "/usr/spool/mail/waltje": 5 message(s) > 1 News Administrato 8 Jul 14:58 35/1218 Re: (none) 2 juts!cccmvs!craig 8 Jul 14:58 28/1179 Ken Stailey's symbolic link ki 3 Ernie L. Ellenber 8 Jul 14:58 24/984 Re: minix symbolic links 4 Theresa Krofta 9 Jul 12:52 31/934 5 Matthias Pfaller 10 Jul 14:28 32/1188 Re: (none) W-MAIL [1]& The command help: ** W-MAIL Commands ** ? This help ! Shell Command Escape - Previous letter + Next letter Take next letter, and show it d Delete current letter f Forward a letter F Forward a letter (quoted) h Display a summary of letters p Print a letter again q Quit, update mailbox r Reply to the current letter s Save current letter t Type a letter, no paging w Save letter without header x Exit, do not update mailbox z Display next page of summary The editor help: *** W-MAIL Editor Help *** ~? This Help Screen ~! Escape into Shell ~A Force .signature to be appended to message ~a Append .signature to message if not autosig ~e Invoke line editor on current message ~m msgno Insert message from the current mailbox ~q Quit (with save) sending this message ~r filename Insert file into current message ~R filename Insert quoted file into current message ~v Invoke visual editor on current message ~x Exit (abort) sending this message The $HOME/.mailrc: # # This is the MicroWalt W-MAIL ".mailrc" file. # # Boolean variables: set autosig set askcc # Ordinairy variables: set Eeditor = /bin/ed set Veditor = /usr/bin/vi set Prompt = W-MAIL [%d]& set folder = mail set record = /user/waltje/mail/out_going # Alias lists: alias andy ast@cs.vu.nl alias wayne loft386.uucp!ledgepc!wayne alias kevin SA44@liverpool.ac.uk alias youki youki@mercury.ics.osaka-u.ac.jp alias mike rdc30med@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil alias minix info-minix@udel.edu alias beta beta-minix@plains.nodak.edu alias refs minix-refs@plains.nodak.edu # Group lists: group mugnet root root@jpny root@wiesje root@hot root@uwalt Now, this looks well, doesn't it? > Can W-MAIL reply mail coming from remote sites. Presently it > assumes all replies are for local mail only ( or I don't know > how to use it at its full strength ?) I am afraid it is the latter case. I _always_ reply .... However, the return address determination has been improved a lot. > I am sending this mail with the UUCP package that Fred is discussing, > it runs under Minix v1.5 inside an XT clone which is devoted for mail > and UUCP. Hurray! > Special thanks to Marc Boucher@CAM.ORG, Peter Housel, Fred Van Kempen > and Glen Overby (in alphabetical order :-) From me: you're welcome. Just keep improving W-MAIL, U-MAIL and UUCP! > > Now, to some technical points: > > > 1/- Everything is OK when I used uutry to invoke uucico manually. > When I put uupoll in crontab, uucico.log showed that uucico was > receiving files OK but lmail could not diliver the mail (permission > problem) and it just cleans up /usr/spool/uucp. > (Please see the relevant information at the end of this message.) > /usr/spool/mail > -rw-rw---- 1 phi daemon 1440 Jul 9 9:29 phi > -rw-rw---- 1 root daemon 3028 Jul 9 9:29 root ^^^^^^ Aaahhh -----------------------------> Why? On minixug, it is: -rw------- 1 arthurg nlmug 553 Jun 9 23:50 arthurg -rw------- 1 baron nlmug 37 Jul 10 02:01 baron -rw------- 1 ennofb nlmug 3935 Jul 10 00:31 ennofb -rw------- 1 info sys 6916 Jul 16 19:45 info -rw------- 1 jeroen nlmug 36 Jul 10 02:00 jeroen -rw------- 1 klarenbe nlmug 2200 Jul 10 19:38 klarenbeek -rw------- 1 meijers nlmug 4230 Jul 15 20:15 meijers -rw------- 1 uuadmin uucp 6254 Jul 7 11:47 uuadmin -rw------- 1 waltje user 0 Jul 16 22:57 waltje -rw------- 1 welch nlmug 1134 Jul 8 21:46 welch > I removed uupoll from crontab and am receiving mail manually with > uutry. I still am confused. First off, make sure that all mailboxes are owned by the addressee (so, "waltje.user" in my case). Currently, it looks like your W-MAIL makes it "waltje.daemon" (phi.daemon). If it still fails, please wait for the new W-MAIL release. > 2/- I have to issue 2 or more "modem -o tty1" to put uugetty in pause > state. Huh? No problems here! > 3/- Also, kermit is stuck at 300 baud. To overcome this I put > > "! stty 2400 < /dev/tty1" > > in .kermrc ( on top of "stty 2400 < /dev/tty1" in /etc/rc). Huh? Maybe a kermit with the old ioctl() call linked in? > 4/- When I save a message erroneously with "s 2 group", the current > message instead of message #2 as intended, is saved as "2 group" > which I could never access ( it's ls'ed though .) Try ls -l '2 group' # note the quotes! > 5/- dead.letter has mode 600 and owner root.daemon so a regular user > can't read his own dead.letter. Correct; has been fixed now. > Topic now changed to " How to manage UUCP and USENET". > > 1/- How can I put Postmaster to work. What would be the proper > entries in /etc/passwd and /etc/group for daemon, mail, uucp, > Postmaster .... (all the entries for UUCP and mail.) On minixug: > /etc/passwd uucp:p9Ne43st2OmLE:40:40:UUCP Network Daemon:/usr/spool/uucppublic:/usr/lib/uucp/uucico -x3 nuucp:/AAVJ3UCtfmF.:40:40:UUCP Network Daemon:/usr/spool/uucppublic: postmaster:*:41:40:Internet Mail Daemon:/usr/spool/uucppublic: uuadmin:*:42:40:UUCP Administrator:/usr/spool/uucppublic: UMAIL still assumes that uid and gid of "uucp" are 40 and 40, resp. This has been fixed now (it now uses getpwnam()). > 2/- Does anyone know if CNEWS can be compiled with the infamous current > PC ACK-C compiler. I use B-News here, and I will post a small news processor of my own soon (W-NEWS; what else?). It comes complete with the Vnews reader. > ***************** Following is the relevant information. ****************** > (That might have caused the problem with uupoll in /usr/lib/crontab) > On minixug: > /usr/spool drwxrwx--- 3 daemon daemon 80 May 20 00:12 at drwxrwxrwx 2 uucp uucp 64 Jul 16 18:42 locks drwx------ 2 lp daemon 48 Jul 8 23:18 lpd drwxrwxrwx 2 uucp uucp 448 Jul 16 22:57 mail drwxrwxr-x 4 news news 128 Jul 4 23:32 news drwxrwxr-x 2 uucp uucp 1840 Jul 16 22:57 uucp drwxrwxrwx 2 uucp uucp 192 Jul 6 23:05 uucppublic > /usr/bin -r-sr-xr-x 5 root sys 32210 Jul 10 01:27 /usr/bin/Mail -r-sr-xr-x 1 root sys 18752 May 20 16:07 /usr/bin/binmail -r-sr-xr-x 5 root sys 32210 Jul 10 01:27 /usr/bin/lmail -r-sr-xr-x 5 root sys 32210 Jul 10 01:27 /usr/bin/mail -r-sr-xr-x 5 root sys 32210 Jul 10 01:27 /usr/bin/mailx -r-sr-xr-x 2 root sys 23654 Jul 8 21:04 /usr/bin/rmail -r-sr-xr-x 1 root sys 16728 May 20 16:07 /usr/bin/stdmail ("wmail" itself is in /usr/local/bin/wmail; the fifth link) > /bin -r-xr-xr-x 1 bin sys 10198 May 20 16:07 /usr/bin/cron > /usr/lib/uucp -rw-rw---- 1 uucp uucp 113 May 24 13:01 L-devices -rw-rw---- 1 uucp uucp 808 Jul 1 23:58 L.sys drwxrwx--- 2 uucp uucp 112 May 26 21:30 Log -rw-rw---- 1 uucp uucp 5 Jul 16 22:57 SPOOLSEQ -r-sr-xr-x 1 uucp uucp 11942 May 20 16:07 call -r-sr-x--- 1 uucp uucp 94 May 20 16:07 cleanlog -r-sr-sr-x 2 uucp uucp 3662 May 20 16:07 hostname -rw-rw---- 2 root sys 3375 Jul 14 15:14 umail.cf -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp uucp 30850 Jun 14 19:10 uucico -r-sr-s--- 1 uucp uucp 42 May 20 16:07 uuclean -r-sr-sr-x 2 uucp uucp 12726 Jun 14 19:39 uucp -r-sr-sr-x 2 uucp uucp 3658 May 20 16:07 uuname -r-sr-s--- 1 uucp uucp 577 Jun 19 13:02 uupoll -r-sr-s--- 1 uucp uucp 155 Jun 8 15:27 uutry -r-sr-sr-x 2 uucp uucp 11904 Jun 14 19:10 uux -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp uucp 11338 Jun 14 19:10 uuxqt Anyway, hope this helps a bit. Beta testing seems to be almost done (no complaints from the beta testers yet...), so the posting of this new version of W_MAIL will be shortly. Then, U-MAIL will be "tortured" followed by UUCP. Regards, Fred. +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | MINIX User Group Holland UUCP: waltje@minixug.hobby.nl | | c/o Fred van Kempen, or: hp4nl!minixug!waltje | | Hoefbladhof 27 | | 2215 DV VOORHOUT | | The Netherlands "A good programmer knows his Sources" | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+