Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jarthur!ucivax!gateway From: harald.alvestrand@elab-runit.sintef.no (Harald Tveit Alvestrand) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400 Subject: Re: X400 problems between DEC's MRX and DG's Message-ID: <1181*harald.alvestrand@elab-runit.sintef.no> Date: 19 Jul 90 09:13:24 GMT Lines: 46 Approved: usenet@ICS.UCI.EDU Autoforwarded: true MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at ICS.UCI.EDU This bounced off my USENET mailer, so I send it through other channels... sorry for the ehader confusion.... Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400 Path: lear!hta From: harald.alvestrand@elab-runit.sintef.no Message-ID: <1990Jul18.094416.6009@idt.unit.no> Keywords: Many recipients, Timeout Reply-To: harald.alvestrand@elab-runit.sintef.no Organization: ELAB-RUNIT, SINTEF, Norway References: <33587.269e46c2@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> <853@syacus.acus.oz> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 90 09:44:16 GMT Well......I had a similar problem running EAN. Of course, there is no connection whatsoever between DG's X.400 and EAN, which is commercialized as OSIWARE's Messenger.400, and the problem may have been solved, but still...... What happened was that EAN received a message with 400 recipients. All the recipients were local to the machine, which is important to what happened. It first received the blocks containing the P1 envelope. It then proceeded to route the message, opening all the 400 UA queues and writing the header to them. It THEN went back to the association, trying to get the next block. BUT: The previous step had taken 15 MINUTES, and the sender had timed out. Result: Approximately as described. Solutions? 2 - 1 done, the other may work. 1) Put a redistribution list on the receiving machine. This is guaranteed to work. 2) Push the timeout up to whatever it needs to be. Permanent solution: Fix the software so it eats the complete message before starting to route on it. RTS-level aborts are a WRONG way of handling problems arising from the content of the message. Cheers, Harald P.S: At the time, message processing took extraordinary amounts of time because of a very slow address format converter. It might not be a problem in ordinary EAN usage. On the other hand, it takes time to set up 400 UAs for testing. I have other problems to solve. So I have not tried this again. Good luck!