Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!know!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!VAX.FTP.COM!jbvb From: jbvb@VAX.FTP.COM (James B. Van Bokkelen) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Zero manufacturer code in SNAP? Message-ID: <9007181417.AA15116@vax.ftp.com> Date: 18 Jul 90 14:17:31 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: jbvb@vax.ftp.com Organization: The Internet Lines: 34 From: agate!shelby!portia.stanford.edu!jessica.stanford.edu!morgan@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (RL "Bob" Morgan) Subject: Zero manufacturer code in SNAP? The 40-bit SNAP extension to IEEE 802.2 specifies a 24-bit "organizationally unique identifier" that is apparently supposed to be the same 24 bits that a manufacturer uses to form the upper part of a 48-bit unique IEEE 802 MAC address. The other 16 bits are assigned by the organization in any way it sees fit. The IEEE 802.2 document actually specifies the SNAP extension header as the 3-byte OIU only. RFC 1042 is where the extra two bytes come from, and the authors chose to put a DIX Ethertype there. They could have put the beginning of an IP packet there instead, or their initials... The question is, has the all-zeros SNAP id been assigned by IEEE to DoD, or the IAB, or some IP authority, to be administered by that authority? Or is the all-zeros id just a general purpose format for translating Ethernet frames to 802.2/SNAP, to be used by anyone? They way I've heard it (I hope I'm right enough that Jon is saved a post) the "all zeroes" OUI was owned by Xerox from the beginning. When RFC 1042 was being worked out, the SNAP header was the only way to run IP on 802.2 networks, because of our inability to obtain a SAP value for ARP (one has been assigned for IP). So, the authors went looking for an OUI, and Xerox was forthcoming. Yes, you can put Ethertype 809b into those two bytes and Appletalk away. You might want to look at a paper by Roger Pfister, "Bridging Ethernet Frames - Which OUI?", which can be found as pub/msb_vs_lsb/661-062.txt on vax.ftp.com. James B. VanBokkelen 26 Princess St., Wakefield, MA 01880 FTP Software Inc. voice: (617) 246-0900 fax: (617) 246-0901