Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!jonathan From: jonathan@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Jonathan Ball) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: Patches and security Message-ID: <7871@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> Date: 19 Jul 90 20:59:03 GMT References: <1469@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> <1990Jul19.193641.23420@terminator.cc.umich.edu> Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711 Lines: 20 In article <1990Jul19.193641.23420@terminator.cc.umich.edu> rees@citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees) writes: In article <1469@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, dente@els.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente) writes: > PLEASE keep the nature of security holes quiet. I disagree, and patch 121 is a perfect example of why we need to discuss security holes. Unless I miss my guess, this patch does not fix the hole at all, it just removes a copy of a program that exploits that hole. You go away thinking your machine is now somehow more secure, and anyone who really wants to can still get in. I may be wrong, but since we're not discussing this hole here, we'll never find out, will we? Well, perhaps Jim Richardson and anyone else who DOES know what the problem is, and HAS applied the patch, could tell us that information without revealing the hole to the rest of the world. Jon -- jonathan@jarthur.claremont.edu (134.173.4.42)