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From: kblackne@king.mcs.drexel.edu (Ken Blackney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Can't resize windows? (was Re: Windows 3.0 & the Mac)
Message-ID: <1990Jul17.203435.18751@king.mcs.drexel.edu>
Date: 17 Jul 90 20:34:35 GMT
Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci.
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In message <1990Jul17.174049.26778@midway.uchicago.edu>, Robert writes:

>  Multifinder was introduced 3 years ago. It seems like a fairly bogus
>  point to be harping on (supposed) deficiencies of pre-MF programs as
>  indicative of some failing in the Mac GUI.  Tell me, how well do
>  pre-Windows DOS programs run under Windows 3?  Do they take advantage
>  of all of Windows 3's features?  No?  Does this imply something wrong
>  with Windows 3?

Your question suffers from it own "bogusness".  You should really be asking
how pre-Windows 3 applications work with Windows 3.  DOS is not another
revision of the same basic system.  (Surely, you will admit that there is
a greater difference between DOS and Windows than System 6 with and without
MultiFinder turned on?)

Pre Win3 apps work just fine if they followed the memory management rules
Microsoft established -- just like Mac apps work fine if they follow Apple's
rules.  The old applications get all of the advantages of the new user
interface (3D buttons, proportional system font, etc) without relinking.
The old apps also gain automatic access to the additional memory, including
virtual memory in 386 mode.

But, since you ask...  DOS applications can run under all Windows 3.0 modes
(8088, 286, and 386).  Windows lets you copy data from a DOS app and paste
it into another app.  Using a 386 provides the fullest set of features
because the applications -- even graphics ones -- run in a resizeable
window.

However, the issue that was originally discussed here (I think) was the
problem that disk icons, the trashcan and files on the desktop do _not_
come to the foreground when the Finder is the active (frontmost) app.  I
use a Mac (SE 20) frequently at work (more than I use the PC at work --
at home the PC dominates) and this is my second biggest complaint (behind
the tiny B&W screen which several thousand dollars can correct).

One of the big differences between the way of the Mac and Windows is that
in Windows, the only things that live on the desktop are running applications.
I would love the Finder to have one big window.  The icons for disks and the
trashcan, frequently used files, and windows for open and closed folder should
appear in this larger window.  Of course, then it would operate like the
Windows File Manager with a pretty face. :-)


>     Robert  = gft_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu

Ken
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