Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!bloom-beacon!captkidd From: captkidd@athena.mit.edu (Ivan Cavero Belaunde) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: New Personal LaserWriters announced Message-ID: <1990Jul17.233702.12801@athena.mit.edu> Date: 17 Jul 90 23:37:02 GMT References: <90191.015015MAC111@psuvm.psu.edu> <1990Jul11.131926.5416@cbnewsh.att.com> <11227@hydra.gatech.EDU> Sender: daemon@athena.mit.edu (Mr Background) Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 47 In article <11227@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt4586c@prism.gatech.EDU (WILLETT,THOMAS CARTER) writes: >In article <1990Jul11.131926.5416@cbnewsh.att.com>, brion@cbnewsh.att.com (brion.n.feinberg) writes: >> Well ... in my opinion (and its only mine - my employer could probably >> care less) if you want a non-Postscript, cheap laser printer set up, go >> for the following: >> 1. An HP Laserjet IIP (available now for < $900 after rebate) >> 2. The MacPrint printer driver (< $100) >> 3. Adobe Type Manager (< $60) >One more item needs to be added to the list to get the most out of the >HP LaserJet IIP: > 4. An additional megabyte of memory for the printer. >In order to print high quality text and graphics (300dpi), the IIP requires >an extra megabyte over the 500k with with it comes stock. This extra memory >will cost about $500 if purchased from Hewlett-Packard and about $250 if >purchased from Pacific Data Products. That makes the total cost of a >completely usable IIP about $1300. If you have to share the printer with >IBMs, it is a very good option. If you have only macs hooked up to the >printer, then GCC makes some good postscript laser printers for about the >same $1300 which will be much faster than the IIP. [Disclaimer: I *do* work for GCC Technologies, so feel free to take the following with a grain of salt] Actually, the GCC printer that goes for $1399 is the Personal Laser Printer II, which, is *not* a Postscript printer. The PLP II is a 4 ppm SCSI-connected QuickDraw based laser printer. The printing throughput, is, however, a *lot* higher than the 10 min/page mentioned earlier in this thread for the Laserjet IIP. It also includes a driver with Bitstream outline fonts (similar to the DeskWriter driver, but with more fonts), so neither ATM nor 4x fonts are required for high quality output. I believe, however, that the GCC printer that is really competitive with the LW SC is the PLP IIS, which is like the PLP II but uses the 8 ppm engine and has 1 meg of RAM on board (making it faster). It also comes with more fonts than the PLP, and it lists for $1899, ($100 less than the SC). IMHO, Apple's printers are too little, too late. The one new printer I like is QMS's new low-end PostScript; of course, we all know the Personal LWs will sell well anyway (I can see dealers bundling them with systems), just like the overpriced and underfeatured ImageWriter line sold like hotcakes. -Ivan Cavero Belaunde Design Engineer GCC Technologies, Waltham, MA captkidd@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Disclaimer: The above are my opinions and mine alone.