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From: dankg@lightning.Berkeley.EDU (Dan KoGai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Programming Editor
Summary: for Think C/Pascal
Keywords: editors
Message-ID: <1990Jul15.100132.21941@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: 15 Jul 90 10:01:32 GMT
References: <77021@cc.utah.edu> <14133@unix.SRI.COM> <11123@claris.com>
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In article <11123@claris.com>,
drc@claris.com (Dennis Cohen) said:

>And I happen to dislike it (a lot).  I've discussed the editor with both
>David Neal and John McEnerney (the authors) and they have explained the
>interaction between the editor and compiler.  It would/will be a major
>task to disengage them.  They acknowledge that the editor is either loved
>or hated, depending on some indefinable set of personality characteristics.
>As it is now, I can tolerate it although I grumble a lot while doing so and
>even now, only use it during debugging/tweaking sessions.  Initial creation
>takes place elsewhere (usually MPW).  Some of my friends love it.  The
>compiler and the debugger are good enough to make its use tolerable and
>the Symantec folk do respond -- some things just take longer than others or
>have a lower priority.  As much as I dislike the editor, I appreciate the
>importance that was placed on the 3.0 feature list (TCL, MacApp, multiple
>segments in the same compilation unit, and the browser) -- I'll wait a while
>longer for the editor changes and I'm sure that I'll love them when they
>arrive.

	I hate both Think C editor.  I love Think C very much and that makes
me hate its editor even more:  It's nothing more than TeachText:  It doesn't
do autoindent smartly and never does autounindent.  A lot of features I'm
so used on emacs are missing.  That's such a drag because anything else
is great:  Its debbuger kicks hell out of any other debuggers I know.
	Is there any plan in Symantec to separate its editor from toplevel
environment like done to its debugger?  I'd appreciate if they do so.  I'd
even appreciate if one can write an add-on editor.  If so will they release
the specs (i.e. data structure of buffer, tags, how to pass text to compiler
module, etc)?

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