Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!apple!apple.com!chewy From: chewy@apple.com (Paul Snively) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: Mac Mach ??? Message-ID: <9231@goofy.Apple.COM> Date: 18 Jul 90 20:45:01 GMT Sender: usenet@Apple.COM Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Lines: 56 References:<1234600045@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> <5126@castle.ed.ac.uk> <5148@castle.ed.ac.uk> <6189@helios.ee.lbl.gov> In article <6189@helios.ee.lbl.gov> beard@ux5.lbl.gov (Patrick C Beard) writes: > In article <5148@castle.ed.ac.uk> tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham) writes: > #In article ml10+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael A. Libes) writes: > #> MacMach is not currently being distributed. There are some users > #>here at CMU, but the distribution rights are owned by Apple. I don't > #>know what their plans are for the product. > # > # Well I can guess. They'll bury it. They'll sit on it. I doubt both of these very much--we don't generally throw money at projects only to "bury" or "sit on" them. My understanding with respect to MacMACH is that the IIci and IIfx ports are not yet done. > #Maybe use some of it to enhance AUX but continue to screw the users for a > #fortune to get that. You'll have to excuse me if I have difficulty accepting the idea that $800 for A/UX is "screwing the users for a fortune" when stacked up against other UNIX pricing structures. > #What else can you expect from an enemy of free software. Well, some of us make our living at writing software and can't afford to be ivory-tower pedants. Little things like feeding a family, etc. rear their ugly heads. Can I take your comment to mean that you give away everything that you (A J Cunningham) write? > #Or maybe I'm just a cynic. Clearly. > Hear ye, hear ye! We want Mach! So do I! > I agree wholeheartedly with most of the above comments. Which just goes to show how unjustifiably paranoid some folks can be. We're not "holding anything back;" two major ports of MacMACH are not yet complete from what I understand. Also incomplete is the software to allow Macintosh applications to run under MACH. In other words, there seems to still be a lot of work to be done. __________________________________________________________________________ Paul Snively Macintosh Developer Technical Support Apple Computer, Inc. chewy@apple.com Just because I work for Apple Computer, Inc. doesn't mean that I believe what they believe, or vice-versa. __________________________________________________________________________