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From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Re: Again, how can I get Motif?
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Date: 17 Jul 90 19:42:36 GMT
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> I asked once before and got no response, except from several other
> people who also would like to know:
> 
> Is there any place/way to get Motif for free, like X itself?  If not,
> as I fear, who sells it and for how much?

I'll start posting this and some other info more regularly.  If you
have more information to fill in the gaps, please let me know and
I'll add it to the next posting.

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The Motif source is available only by licensing it from OSF.  Licensing
cost is currently $1000 for commercial sites, quite a bit less for
Universities.  As with the AT&T Unix licenses, once you have a source
license you are free to share code and fixes with other licensees.

	Open Software Foundation
	Attn: Motif Order Desk
	11 Cambridge Center
	Cambridge, MA 02142
	Email: direct@osf.org
	(Commercial/Academic source licenses)

Motif binaries are currently available without charge, and/or as part
of base software, from almost all workstation vendors.  The only major
exception to this is Sun, and several other companies have stepped
in to fill the void.  The ones I know about are:

	Integrated Computer Solutions
	163 Harvard Street
	Cambridge, MA 02139
	Email: info@ics.com
	(Binaries for Sun, MacOS and other platforms)

	Quest Systems Corporation
	3333 Bowers Avenue
	Santa Clara, CA 05054
	Email: ???
	(Binaries for Sun)

	IXI and Unipalm in the U.K.
	Addresses?
	Email?

There are several places where you can post and receive information
about Motif.

For licensees only, there is the motif-talk list at OSF.  This is
primarily for posting bug patches or other information which requires
a source license.

For everyone else there is the dual motif newsgroup/mailing-list pair.
comp.windows.x.motif and motif@alphalpha.com are gatewayed to each
other and carry general discussion, questions and occasionally answers
about Motif.  If for some reason you can not use the newsgroup, you
can join the mailing list by sending mail to motif-request@alphalpha.com.

Finally, the xpert/comp.windows.x mailing-list/newsgroup pair also
carries some discussion about Motif, and is particularly a good source
of information if your problem is more Intrinsics than Motif related.

For reading material, I'd recommend any of the following:

    OSF/Motif Programmer's Guide and OSF/Motif Programmer's
    Reference, Open Software Foundation, Prentice-Hall, 1990, 
    ISBN 0-13-640525-8 and ????.

    X Window Systems: Programming and Applications with Xt
    (OSF/Motif edition), Douglas A. Young, Prentice-Hall, 1990,
    ISBN 0-13-497074-8.

    OSF/Motif Reference Guide, Douglas A. Young, Prentice-Hall, 
    1990, ISBN 0-13-642786-3.

    Programming with OSF/Motif, Kee Hinckley and Brian Holt,
    Addison-Wesley, forthcoming.

    X Toolkit Intrinsics Programming Manual (Motif edition),
    Adrian Nye and Tim O'Reilly, O'Reilly and Associates,
    forthcoming. (This is Volume 4. Work on the Motif edition will
    be out after the R4 edition is done).

and also

    Introduction to the X Window System, Oliver Jones, Prentice
    Hall, 1989, ISBN 0-13-499997-5.

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I'm not sure which upsets me more; that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.

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