Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!snorkelwacker!mintaka!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89.0!William.Wilson From: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Emergency Exits Message-ID: <12789@bunker.UUCP> Date: 17 Jul 90 19:33:37 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA Lines: 68 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 9186 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] DA> because of the safety overtones, we are still suffering blanket DA> discrimination in these situations by the assumption that all DA> blind people are not responsible because they are blindness. DA> Airlines are allowing others to sit in the exit rows, people DA> who are clearly not safe. David, I wasn't going to touch this thread again, just wishing to keep perspective and not drag it down to the depths of personal insult but you've forced me to point out what I feel is a touch of hypocracy in your position! You and others have repeatedly used the argument that safety isn't the real issue here, but rather that it is a case of "blanket" discrimination, something that promotes the image of blinks as helpless creatures, thus adding to the stereotyping that keeps our employment rate so low, etc. David, I not only started to understand your position on this, I was being swayed in my own opinion of this whole issue! In fact, it was Eric Bohlman's message about the use of the laundry/fire laws that started my reinterpretation of the airline situation, and indeed, it is a complicated issue. DA> --- I presume that an airline would be reluctant to allow a DA> guide row because of the possibility of blocking the exit. I DA> would h agree with this one as the passageway should be kept DA> clear so leave. It would be difficult to attend to the DA> removal of the and move the dog out by a single person. DAVID!!! Up to now I thought you were saying that safety was not the real issue here, but rather it was an act of discrimination against a single group...BLINKS! Now you're saying it is ok to discriminate against blinks with dogs, just not ones with canes!!! All of a sudden the discrimination part is thrown away so you don't have to worry about tripping over a guide dog!!! The fact that the person attached to the guide dog is a blink becomes now secondary to the safety of the passengers! Sorry David, but I say we got to have it one way or the other! If this is a discrimination issue and not a safety issue, all blinks should have the right to sit their butts in the emergency row! Breaking blinks into 2 categories, ones with guide dogs and ones without guide dogs, the later to be the only ones able to avoid the discrimination, just sort of takes all the sting out of your argument, at least for me! Yep David, you've managed to get me right back where I started from! I said originally, as the "chances are" subject field of this thread initially said, that if safety is the issue, I was all for discriminating against more people! I saw it at that time as a safety issue, I believe the reality of the situation is that there is a slight disadvantage to having a blind person sitting in the emergency row, just as there is a disadvantage of having someone who has been drinking, or someone who can't speak the dominant language of the plane passengers, or someone who is prone to hysteria, etc. etc. etc. I also find your willingness to agree that blinks using guide dogs should be allowed to be discriminated against by the airlines a good sign that you are changing your mind on this issue! You going to New Orleans or Tampa next year? Willie ... BlinkTalk, Dr. Deb and Silver in Pittsburgh! -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89.0!William.Wilson Internet: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org