Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!260!204!Ann.Parsons From: Ann.Parsons@f204.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Parsons) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Quality of counsellors Message-ID: <12799@bunker.UUCP> Date: 17 Jul 90 19:36:25 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Ann.Parsons@f204.n260.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/204 - Flower City Central, Chili NY Lines: 94 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 9196 Hi Greg, AP>> gOOD COUNSELORS, LIKE GOOD TEACHERS, ARE MADE IN hEAVEN. >" >"My counselling agency that I helped administer (Helping Hand >"Mission, affiliated with one of the Anglican churches) would >"probably like to agree with you. If they didn't, I would think they were backslidin'. >"Each training class, we designed an Interview day. From about 40 >"applicants on paper, we invited 30 to the "Selection Day". >" >"We stage it so that only half will be there at the end of the >"day. After our "selection", we still might lose a few who proved >"unsuited to counselling. >" >"The training topics & methods that we use are probably off-topic >"to this conference. Plobablly so, though the ineffeciency of rehab counselors is most certainly on-topic here. AP>> i MERELY MEAN TO SAY THAT THE SKILL OF COUNSELING IS A GIFT. >" >"I see it as a stage in Personal Maturation. Some mature earlier >"than others. Well, yes, you can not counsel others until you've examined yourself honestly. Self examination comes with maturity. AP>> COMBINATION OF DESIRE TO COMMUNICATE >" >"Counselling is basically one-way: Client -to-dogooder. >"Teaching, which I've also done, is mainly in the other direction. No, no, that depends on whose counseling methods you're following. It sounds to me like you're a rogerian. I'm an eclectic, myself. AP>> WITH A GOOD KNOWLEDGE OF THE sYSTEM AND ITS WORKINGS. >" >"The bookworms finishing some Unversity Social-Work course are >"very good on theoretical knowledge. Ho, yeh, that's fer sher. AP>> mAYBE THAT'S WHERE MANY COUNSELORS FALL AP>> BY THE WAYSIDE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN THEIR AP>> AREA'S RESOURCES WELL ENOUGH. >" >"So if they are dealing with a disabled person, say diabetes, >"they might not recognize that retardation, "laziness", >"hyperactivity, headaches, etc are really part of badly-controlled >"diabetes. By George, I think he's got it! >"Part of the ignorance and low-quality being given to disabled >"people, is because the disabled people are TOO INARTICULATE. Yes, that is also true, they are taught to be that way. >"There are lots of words being thrown about on this conference, >"but the words are carefuully and deliberately avoiding any >"information that will ultimately be useful to professional >"do-gooders. >" >"Unless Disabled People eventually learn to COMMUNICATE in words, >"they will continue to be the victims of ignorance & >"misunderstanding. Yes, but they need to be taught to do so. If the Do-gooders, as you call them, whould just change their attitude from, "I know what's best for you and I will tell you what is right." to "I can help you to make life changing decisions by giving you the information you need."...... >"So that's why we are here, trying to describe to the Persecutors, >"just how they are really victimizing us, and therefore hurting >"themselves - in the long run. Hmmmmm, welllll, I dunnow. I think that you're a bit too hard on The System here, Greg. They do not persecute us, they merely pursue us and try to mold us in their molds instead of allowing us to mold ourselves. Hmmmm, still being lazy, I see, not signing your posts. That's ok, we know who you are. Ann P. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!260!204!Ann.Parsons Internet: Ann.Parsons@f204.n260.z1.fidonet.org