Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: mls@sfsup.att.com (Mike Siemon) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: homosexuality Message-ID: Date: 18 Jul 90 07:34:41 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 49 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu Oh, God! there is such ignorance in this world. alan@jts.com (alan sinclair) writes: > At the risk of starting a fire storm, it seems to me that > homosexuals realize this. Is it not true that in homosexual > couples one assumes the masculine role and the other the > feminine? All the homosexual men who are effeminate - the > "obvious" ones - are they not just those men who assume > the feminine role in the couple? In words of one syllable -- No, it is not true. None of it. > Of significance is the fact, to quote a cliche, that when Adam > was incomplete God created Eve, not Steve. Implied in that > story is that God made humans in two complimentary natures: > masculine and feminine. And that masculine/feminine > complimentation is MUCH more than physical. The complimentary > union of masculine and feminine is God's building block for > the family, society, the church, ... You read too much of your own cultural hangups about sex into the story. God made woman *coequal* with man, as helpmate; you are quite right that the spiritual complementation with our helpmates is far more important than physiological conformation. That is exactly what *we* say. The physiology doesn't much support you either. Americans *hate* the idea of indeterminate sex -- so much so that thousands of children are surgically butchered to make their parents more comfortable. Neither nature nor God are as simple you seem to think. If you are trying to make inferences from "God's design" of our human nature, you might want to have some helpful soul show you how intensely pleasurable stimulation of the prostate gland is. You may then speculate on the use and abuse of pleasure. > May we, by God's grace, do what we are meant to do, and bring > pleasure to God. I agree with the sentiment, but I think you are woefully ignorant of God's world and far too ready to tell me what God means for me to do. -- Michael L. Siemon We must know the truth, and we must m.siemon@ATT.COM love the truth we know, and we must ...!att!sfsup!mls act according to the measure of our love. standard disclaimer -- Thomas Merton