Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!seismo!ukma!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!rutgers!njin!princeton!hpcvlx.cv.hp.com From: tay@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com (Mike Taylor) Newsgroups: soc.religion.eastern Subject: Re: Looking for a philosophy/religion. Message-ID: <1211@idunno.Princeton.EDU> Date: 13 Jul 90 17:10:01 GMT Sender: mukund@idunno.Princeton.EDU Lines: 24 Approved: mukund@idunno.Princeton.EDU The two books I have are, "An Introduction to Zen Buddhism" by Daisetz Teitaro Suzuki, and "Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" by Shunryn Suzuki. The former is pretty old (the intro was written by Jung), but it is short and pretty easy reading. I have just started the latter, but its pretty good so far. The problem I have is understanding what is meant by stuff like "when you travel east, you also travel west", and "the present becomes the past and the past becomes the present". It seems to be in the crux of the Zen mind, kind of disregarding the reality that has been put upon you, and disregarding what you have learned. I think that is what is meant to have the "Beginner's Mind". Mabey I try too hard to understand Zen. "I have nothing to teach you about Zen", "keep the beginner's mind", and "if you see the Buddha, you must kill him" are the types of phrases that keep coming up. It seems very elusive and meant to be that way. --- Mike Taylor | "I've seen stranger things than you tay@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com | in my breakfast cereal!" - Zaphod Beeblebrox