Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mstar!mstar.morningstar.com!bob From: bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: Re: Can I "null-modem" 15 wire Ethernet or build my own xceiver? Message-ID: Date: 24 Jul 90 20:34:05 GMT References: <620@beguine.UUCP> Sender: usenet@MorningStar.COM (USENET Administrator) Reply-To: bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) Organization: Morning Star Technologies Lines: 24 In-Reply-To: Jeff.Miller@samba.acs.unc.edu's message of 24 Jul 90 09:02:54 GMT In article <620@beguine.UUCP> Jeff.Miller@samba.acs.unc.edu (BBS Account) writes: Does anyone know how to "null-modem" a pair of machines together using the 15 conductor standard? I only need to go a couple feet. I would assume if it is possible it would only work point-point. Nope, you'll still need a transceiver, or its moral equivalent, for each node. The bad news is that the initial investment just to get two boxes talking on Ethernet is rather high. Your best bet will be to buy two thin Ethernet transceivers, a hunk of RG58 coax, a pair of BNC T-connectors, and a pair of 50 Ohm BNC terminators. The good news is that you'll then have a fully-functional Ethernet on your desk, with all the rights and privileges appertaining thereto. It will be much easier to add the third box than if you had only created a "null modem" transceiver cable. Also, I bet several manufacturers have wasted no time coming up with single-chip transceivers that need few external parts. Anyone familiar with any of these, know any part numbers, or know a source for small quantities? See recent discussions in comp.sys.sun for lists of companies producing very small (credit card size), very low-cost ($120-200) thinnet transceivers. One of their big markets is for Sun SPARCstations and SLCs with only AUI ports from the factory.