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From: bruce@balilly.uucp (Bruce Lilly)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Picking phone up while modem in use
Summary: marketing hype in comp.dcom.modems?
Message-ID: <1990Jul22.122933.3749@blilly.UUCP>
Date: 22 Jul 90 12:29:33 GMT
References: <3619@hsfmsh.UUCP>
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In article <3619@hsfmsh.UUCP> tnixon@hsfmsh.UUCP (Toby Nixon) writes:
>In article <5851@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU>, Lan S Hsieh writes:
>
>- Shouldn't Hayes compatible modems hang up the phone that's plugged
>- into them so picking up the receiver while the modem is in use won't
>- interrupt the comm link? 
>
>The techie is wrong.  Real Hayes modems DO disconnect the PHONE jack 
>from the line whenever the modem is off-hook, precisely for the 
>reason you describe: to prevent you from inadvertently interrupting 
>your call by picking up that phone.  [ ... ]
>
>Many modems made by other manufacturers do not do this.  It takes an 
>additional relay, adding some expense and board space.  This is only 
>one of the many little reasons why Hayes modems cost a little more, 
>but, as you can see, those little things are sometimes important.
>
>Whether or not you have some kind of "claim" against these folks is 
>doubtful.  "Hayes compatible" is not any kind of a legal term; it is 
>very subjective, defined by the company using it, not by Hayes. [ ... ]
>
>	-- Toby
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Toby Nixon, Principal Engineer     Fax:    +1-404-441-1213  Telex: 6502670805
>Hayes Microcomputer Products Inc.  Voice:  +1-404-449-8791  CIS:    70271,404
>Norcross, Georgia, USA             BBS:    +1-404-446-6336  MCI:       TNIXON
>                                   Telemail: T.NIXON/HAYES  AT&T:     !tnixon
>UUCP:   ...!uunet!hayes!tnixon     Internet:        hayes!tnixon@uunet.uu.net
>MHS:    C=US / AD=ATTMAIL / PN=TOBY_L_NIXON / DD=TNIXON
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have a "Real Hayes" Smartmodem 1200 which *does not* disconnect the
PHONE jack .... (it doesn't even *have* a PHONE jack, just the single
connector for the telco line).

I'm certain that Toby *knows* that some "Real Hayes" modems don't do what
he claims they do (since I e-mail'ed him last time he said this).

I don't object to Toby, or any other representative of a vendor, making
statements about his products, *provided that the statements are factual
and not just marketing hype*.

Readers of this newsgroup should be advised that not all Hayes modems have
the feature claimed by Mr. Nixon.  I would hope that in the future Mr.
Nixon would be somewhat more carefule in his statements (I'll give him the
benefit of the doubt by assuming that it wasn't *intentionally*
misleading).
--
	Bruce Lilly		uunet!vmp!sonyd1!blilly!balilly!bruce