Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: john@bovine.ati.com (John Higdon) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: College Phracking Message-ID: <10071@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 24 Jul 90 17:39:19 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Reply-To: John Higdon Organization: Green Hills and Cows Lines: 50 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 512, Message 7 of 11 Tareq Hoque writes: > In the end I told them I was refusing to give my property to them. > They said they would turn me in to the Dean of Student affairs if they > didn't receive it in 24 hours. I never turned it in, and I never > heard about the incident again. Whatever anyone says, the MFJ had its benefits. This is one of them. I remember from the time I was a kid until about the time I founded my own telecommunications vending company, there was this air of panic everytime a telephone repair person showed up on the premisis. If there was trouble on the line a pit in the stomach would occur from thinking about all of the "cleaning up" that would have to be done with all the wiring. Disconnect the extra phones, get rid of the "construction projects", can the experiments. And never, never have any telco-type test equipment around -- even if you bought it legitimately. Now, of course, when a phone man comes out it is a totally different story. On several occasions I have provided my lineman's handset to the repairperson when s/he needed two. One of the things that has helped is the "network interface", a direct result of divestiture. I leave everything the way it is and with one simple motion, telco can isolate its line and find the fault. Oh, there's still a lot of the old attitude among the front line folks. In the not too distant past, I had tried to get the projected cutover date for a particular CO. Everyone I talked to through normal, front-line channels seemed to indicate that such information was proprietary. Then I did an end run via one of my friends. Not only did I get the info that I wanted, but he pointed out a Pac*Bell periodical that lists cutover dates six months in advance. Of course, Pac*Bell now sends announcements to customer's advising them of planned cutovers. They are detailed form letters stating the equipment to be removed, to be installed, and the generic release along with info as to what kind of changes might occur in the service. > The good old days. Back in the good old days, none of this information would have been considered to be any of the public's business. And why would it have been? The "telephone company" provided everything end-to-end and no one else need be concerned over what equipment is in the CO. John Higdon | P. O. Box 7648 | +1 408 723 1395 john@bovine.ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | M o o !