Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!willett!dwp From: dwp@willett.UUCP (Doug Philips) Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Where to get Standards documents Message-ID: <1379.UUL1.3#5129@willett.UUCP> Date: 23 Jul 90 04:02:39 GMT References: <11971@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> Organization: String, Scotch tape, and Paperclips. (in Pgh, PA) Lines: 30 In <11971@sdcc6.ucsd.edu>, ir230@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (john wavrik) writes: > > fig-Forth is worth looking at. The intent was that vendors (rather > than individual users) would use the model as contained in the > listings as the basis for their implemention of Forth. This is what > actually happened. For a period of several years, versions of Forth > which ran in essentially the same way were available for a large > variety of computers. Unless you have had experience with fig-Forth you > won't be able to understand why some people feel that Forth has gone > down hill since. I take it from your comments that experience with just one Fig-Forth based system is not what you are referring to here? I get the impression that there is something about a group of highly-related Forth systems that is the real point? Setting aside whether or not a diversification from Fig-Forth was good or bad, and the reasons for it, are you implying that there was something other than mere conformance to a defacto-standard that made Fig-Forth important/special/??? ? Are you lamenting the diversity of lack of portability that followed from Forth-79 and Forth-83 and XYZ Inc.'s Forth, or is there something else that was lost? -Doug P.S. Although this is in the form of messages to/from John and I, anyone with similiar views should feel welcome to reply. --- Preferred: willett!dwp@hobbes.cert.sei.cmu.edu OR ...!sei!willett!dwp Daily: ...!{uunet,nfsun}!willett!dwp [in a pinch: dwp@vega.fac.cs.cmu.edu]