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From: kevin@kosman.UUCP (Kevin O'Gorman)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Imminent death of UUCP Zone predicted
Message-ID: <1198@kosman.UUCP>
Date: 18 Jul 90 16:29:21 GMT
References: <3143.26a2edd9@mccall.com>
Organization: K.O.'s Manor - Vital Computer Systems, Oxnard, CA 93035
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tp@mccall.com writes:

>Has anyone simply refused a link to a broken machine that is not and
>end-node? When you get a new link and uucp the news software down to them,
>send them smail too, and tell them to get registered. Also tell them that
>if they don't get registered, they must remain an end node, or you will
>drop your link with them. 

I've got a different problem.  I'm the end-node, uucp-only site.  I would
sort of like to get registered, but every time I have asked about it I've
gotten very little response, or response that just has to be wrong (folks
at the "network control center" (??) who insisted I would have to have a
network id (one of those 000.00.0.00 things), or a response that was just
too confusing or promised to be expensive.  My main feed is an internet
site which is willing to do what is required (or give me "guest root"
privilege to do it myself), but their current people either don't know
much about it or don't have much time to hold my hand about it.

I'm going to guess that I'm not alone.  And I've done what I can think of
already: I run smail 2.5 and Mush, and I try to send out sensible
headers, though the rules are a bit hard to understand in an environment
where it seems NOBODY is willing to document major features like "%",
and many people are smugly superior about their undersanding of a very
complicated situation.  BTW this surely does not apply to the poster
of the original article.  Indeed, I am encouraged to ask these questions
the helpful attitude expressed here.

>I'll get flamed for that, but I think it is a reasonable condition. I can
          ^^^^^^ not by me
>give links to whoever I want, and I am doing them a favor. I feel I'm
>justified in putting conditions on my favors, and I feel that that
>particular condition is reasonable, since it is not too tough to get
>registered. Implicit in the requirement is my help (as someone who has done
>it) to get registered.

>I urge any registered site out there who connects to an unregistered site
>to help that person get registered, and lean on him to do it. (Donning
>asbestos suit now...)

Okay, but how about the unregistered site who's not having much luck leaning
on the regisered one?

I would like to know:
	1) Can I get registered without paying $100 or more.
	2) What exactly is an MX record, and where does it go?
	3) What do I have to do to their sendmail (shudder) to make it
		deliver mail to my new domain if I get one?
	4) What do I have to do to smail and/or rmail to make it accept
		the domain based mail when it comes in.
	5) What else, if anything, do I have to do to the neighbor's
		machine to make all this work?
-- 
Kevin O'Gorman ( kevin@kosman.UUCP, kevin%kosman.uucp@nrc.com )
voice: 805-984-8042 Vital Computer Systems, 5115 Beachcomber, Oxnard, CA  93035
Non-Disclaimer: my boss is me, and he stands behind everything I say.