Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!dino!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!ragg0270 From: ragg0270@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Suggestion for Scientific package Message-ID: <46200104@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 22 Jul 90 16:53:00 GMT Lines: 45 Nf-ID: #N:uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:46200104:000:1785 Nf-From: uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!ragg0270 Jul 22 11:53:00 1990 I just finished lobbying for an Amiga to be included in a grant proposal with no success. The end result was a request for a Mac IIfx. Of course the biggest complaint people had with the Amiga was "it has no software". Please don't start a flame war over this, whether it's true or not, it is the perception most people have. So I'd like to offer a suggestion for a package I think would make the Amiga much more attractive: Bundle together: Amiga 3000 @ 25 MHz w/ 100 MB HD Ethernet hardware w/ TCP/IP software and X-Windows WordPerfect Maple AmigaTEX Absoft Fortran Compiler Lattice C Some resonable upgrade path for UNIX when available Price: somewhere around $5,000 or less. I think this would really sell to us academic types. COmpare to the IIfx system (prices approx.) Mac IIfx, 4 MB Ram, 160 MB HD: $6800 13" RGB Monitor $ 655 Keyboard $ 150 Ethernet Card $ 500 Video Card $ 600 Fortran + C Compilers $ 500 (?) TOTAL $8700 Add TEX, Word and Mathematica: $10,000 or so. The hardware and software listing above is approx. equivalent. The Mac system still has the advantage that additional scientific software is available, which is why our proposal is asking for a Mac. Still, the above Amiga system would be very competitive, I think. I also think C= could gain an advantage by stressing the Amiga's multitasking and versability. I use Macs and Mac IIs daily and when trying to (1) transfer files using FTP, (2) print documents on a LaserWriter and (3) run a plotting program (IGOR), even a MacIIx (68030 w/ 68882 I think?) is a real slug. One task frequently takes over the whole machine for 15+ seconds and FTP transfer rates are well under 1 KB/sec (from a Cray 2). Could the Amiga do better under similar conditions? If so that alone would sell me.