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From: klien@typhoon.Berkeley.EDU (Karen Lien)
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Subject: Re: Info on new low-end Mac
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Date: 23 Jul 90 00:17:44 GMT
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In article <1990Jul22.011427.1065@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>The MacIIci does come with a 68882, as well as built in video giving
>you either 256 colours in 640x480 or 16 shades in a portrait display.

Thanks -- I didn't know about the 68882.  I thought that the original video
setup was 16 colors, expandable to 256?  Well, like I originally posted,
the only reason I would buy a Mac is for the large screens (which for some
funny reason is aliased in my mind with lots of colors too...)

>A/UX 2.0 is quite a nice implementation of UNIX, and is available
>now. What do you call "standard Unix".

Simple, one that says Unix on it.  That's simple, no?  I've seen A/UX.  I'm
impresed with the interface, not necessarily the specific technology.

>The A3000 is technically a nice computer. The software base is rather
>limited, so the extra $1500 is more than worth it for 90% of the
>users.

Aha! So your argument is that its the installed base of software that makes a
computer?  So by your argument you ought to be buying an IBM, right?  It's
cheaper and comes with lots more software (well, IBM clones, really...)

The point is that I can run Apple software on my Amiga with AMax for about
$500.  $1500 is not a justifiable expense to me, simply because its $1000
I don't need to spend unless I specifically need:

	1. Huge display.
	2. Appletalk.
	3. Mac sound capability.

With the new AMax, the last two advantages will disappear, but that's a
meaningless discussion.

>At its current price, it simply will
>not sell well. There is not enough software to justify it. 

FOr whom?  For the scientific type, those not willing to look into emulators,
etc. -- that may be so.  For video people its the machine of choice for
exactly the opposite reason.

What's more interesting is that the machine (from the accounts I've heard)
are selling as fast as Cmdre can make them.  Which is pretty good for a
computer that doesn't have its operating system in ROM yet...

>   
>Philip McDunnough
>University of Toronto
>philip@utstat.toronto.edu
>[my opinions]

And these are, of course, mine.  I don't want to start a flamewar, it's not
meant as a flame.  It's just I hate to see people wasting $1000 when they
can be giving it to me.

Hmm, now there's an idea -- suppose I could bundle A3000 and AMax, and sell
the combo for a $1000 profit?
:) -- if you couldn't tell.