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From: LEEK@QUCDN.QueensU.CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: (yet) Another angle on Seagate...
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Date: 26 Jul 90 12:47:13 GMT
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In article <2622@mindlink.UUCP>, a186@mindlink.UUCP (Harvey Taylor) says:
>
>[ The Lineater is alive & well by the look of some posts lately...
>
>    In the course of Seagate flaming sessions past, several more or less
> solid facts have come to light.
>
> 0) Some people have had no problem with Seagate drives.
>
> 1) Many people have had problems with stiction in Seagate drives.
>
> 2) Seagate has sold a hell of a lot of drives.
>    [The argument of percentages is often voiced; ie. because of
>    Seagate's large volume, there are many more bad Seagate drives out
>    there just cause there are so many more Seagate drives out there.
>    This is true as far as it goes but #3.]
>

and a lot of bad drive in the process...
If only they have a better quality control.  Bad publicity cost business.


> 3) Nobody has authoritative independent stats on actual MTBF for all
>    (or most) HDrive manufacturers.
>
> 4) Some slight inkling that there might be something funny going on
>    with Seagate drives is indicated by things like Jameco dropping the
>    line for MiniScribe.

The same can be said about quite a few computer stores in Toronto dropping
Seagate drives.  The most important reason behind the decision is due to the
high failure rate of the Seagate products...

Did Jameco say why they drop Miniscribe ?  (May be because Miniscribe is
in trouble and therefore might not be able to offer user service..) Or
the fact that Miniscribe is trimming their business.  Last time I read
Miniscribe is dropping most if not all of their popular drives and
concentrate on 3.5" 1" height drive with imbedded controller such as IDE and
SCSI. (They have quite a few OEM customers for IDE)
>
>  "Blessed are the skeptical, for they have made backups." - some ad
>
>  Harvey Taylor      Meta Media Productions
>  uunet!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!Harvey_Taylor
>  a186@mindlink.UUCP

K. C. Lee

P.S.  May be they should also include the return/failure rate as part of
      the hard drive reliability data beside MTBF and other claims.