Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.tech Subject: Re: I need Help with the A3000! Message-ID: <13386@cbmvax.commodore.com> Date: 23 Jul 90 22:38:33 GMT References: <1027@tau.sm.luth.se> <13183@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1028@tau.sm.luth.se> <13236@cbmvax.commodore.com> <6055@sugar.hackercorp.com> <13283@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1990Jul20.234155.27729@spock.UUCP> <6071@sugar.hackercorp.com> Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax (Dave Haynie) Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA Lines: 38 In article <6071@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >So far, V.4 is still only available in beta... for Commodore *or* Intel. You >guys at the computer companies get to play, but you're all still vaporware. Sure, we do get to play. But that's a Good Thing; if we didn't, there would all these extra bugs once the thing is released... >Intel keeps trying to tell us that we don't need bugs fixed: they'll be fixed >in V.4. I'm beginning to think of it as an excuse instead of a release. We have much the same situation with 1.3 vs. 2.0 as well. Sure, there are lots of 1.3 bugs that folks would like to see fixed. If we spend time working on the old (obselete, unsupported, antiquated, whatever) OS, the new one doesn't get written. Same problem they have with UNIX -- at some point, they have to stop most of the support of the OS that's about to be replaced to get the new one out. That's apparently why you can't get the AMIX SVR3.2 release; it would have been too difficult to launch a new (from Commodore's viewpoint) OS knowing it would be replaced within the year anyway. >> Randell's thinking of the full system here, not a subset. Modern >> UNIX ain't small. >Well that's the point, isn't it? You don't see it running on my machine, do you. I have no use for SVR3.2, either. And the lack of X (or at least some kind of graphics subsystem) isn't considered a feature if you're doing hardware work; we work in symbols, not text! >Peter da Silva. `-_-' >. -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy The Dave Haynie branch of the New Zealand Fan Club