Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uwm.edu!rutgers!cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixa.cc.columbia.edu!cmm1 From: cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: TT (Who has one?) Keywords: long Message-ID: <1990Jul20.141733.5567@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Date: 20 Jul 90 14:17:33 GMT References: <1990Jul19.135115.2032@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> <1990Jul19.160526.2215@arcsun.arc.ab.ca> <6764@vax1.acs.udel.EDU> Sender: news@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (The Daily News) Reply-To: cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) Organization: Columbia University Lines: 73 I wish to thank the person who posted that lengthy article concerning the TT. It is the most informative post I've seen so far on the subject. A few comments: 1. It was interesting to note the rather healthy dose of cynicism Darek gives whenever the name of Atari is in the same sentence. I guess we can't blame him. And this guy is one of the biggest supporters of the ST line as far as I can ascertain! Hehe, I love it... 2. The chart posted by Atari NZ regarding the TT specs (reporduced below) is a bit irritating. It compares a 32mhz (I'll consider it 16mhz until someone SEES/USES a 32mhz model) TT against 16mhz models made by competitors. This is absolute bullsh*t. The Amiga 3000 is offered in a 25mhz version (Which you can buy TODAY at a lower price than those quoted for the TT) and the MacII family has a 25mhz and *40mhz* versions which you can go right out an purchase now. While the Macs may be more pricey, they are available NOW and have been for quite some time. As far as the A3000 goes, I think the quoted prices for the TT are higher when you consider that you must go out and buy an EXPENSIVE multisync monitor to handle ALL of its various display modes. 3. The A3000 comes with a 68882 math coprocessor running at 25mhz, the TT comes with the slower 68881. I wonder what Atari will charge for the upgrade if you want/need it? 4. As Darek noted, TOS v.X.X has and seems doomed to be forever buggy. The other machines listed on the table seem to have better support for OS updates. Are you willing to buy computer X slightly cheaper now only to be hung out to dry when it comes time for user support? 5. Also, as Darek noted, if/when Dave Small produces a 030 upgrade for the ST, you could buy a NEW Mega 2 system and a $1500 030 upgrade and still save well over $1000 in the cost of the TT. Go figger... Anyway, here is the table again for those who missed it... Comparison of standard features Amiga 3000 Mac IIcx Atari TT030 CPU 68030 68030 68030 FPU Yes Yes Yes Clock speed 16 Mhz - 32 Mhz RAM 2 to 17 1 to 32 2 to 26 Burst Mode Yes No Yes ROM 512K 256K 512K Graphics Max resolution 1280 x 480 Optional 1280 x 960 Interlaced Non-interlaced Max colours 32 Colours 256 Colours from 4096 from 4096 Max video RAM 1 Mb 8 Mb Sound Stereo Stereo Stereo Expansion Proprietary NuBus VME Hard disk DMA Non-DMA DMA Floppy disk Proprietary Proprietary PC compatible Network No Yes Yes, DMA Serial 1 x RS232 2 x RS232 4 x RS232 Parallel Yes No Yes MIDI No No Yes ROM Cartridge No No Yes Cheers, Chris ------------------------------+--------------------------- Chris Mauritz |Donde hay una cerveza cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |hay un plan. (c)All rights reserved. | Send flames to /dev/null |El Guerrero Aereo es el rey! ------------------------------+---------------------------